LA Homeland Security *confirms* ARC kept out!

[Xiahou]

Right after you post a link specifically showing a terrorist threat in New Orleans after the hurricane requiring a need for baggage screeners to check the belongings of people who had just been airlifted by helicopters from rooftops in rising flood waters.

Sorry, I feel no need to even refute unsubstantiated claims- if you wont back them up, they should be dismissed entirely.

[Aenlic]

That's what I thought. While you're moping about unsubstantiated claims, where is your outrage at Gawain for making unsubstantiated claims that it was the governor of Louisiana who specifically ordered the Red Cross to not set up in New Orleans, rather than the Major General in charge of the office that made the decision? What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander? Can you say double standard? I knew you could.

[Xiahou]

That's what I thought. While you're moping about unsubstantiated claims, where is your outrage at Gawain for making unsubstantiated claims that it was the governor of Louisiana who specifically ordered the Red Cross to not set up in New Orleans, rather than the Major General in charge of the office that made the decision? What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander? Can you say double standard? I knew you could.

"specifically ordered the Red Cross to not set up in New Orleans"? I don't remember Gawain saying that. But if you're suggesting the chief executive of the state isn't responsible for what her appointees do, then you probably owe Bush a few apologies.

But you're still missing (dodging?) the point. You (and others) were wrong when you suggested Bush's incompetence was to blame for the slow flow of relief supplies into New Orleans. You could at least admit that your contempt for the man caused you to jump to conclusions.

[Tribesman]

You could at least admit that your contempt for the man caused you to jump to conclusions.
Yes Right......and some more .......
oh yeh there it is.... Did or did not the States emerrrgency plan contain (with provisions for federal aid) a plan trhat was set up for over 61,000 fatalities .?were there federal resources at hand ?did 61,000 people die??????
Oh No then it must be a success
Blame every feckwit gobshite that is responsible . Be it at State or National level .
the balls up that ran through every level of goverment from the top to the botommust be acounted for (sidelining Brown is not is not accounting for the failures , that is findig a sacrificial lamb)

Now slightly off topic.....isn't it good that the a residents have decided tht their possesion of arms is enough to ensure that the Guards don't evict them from their property , but evicted they must be ....
So for all you people who claim that the constitution reserves you the right to forcibly reject the gvernment wuld be willihg to fae the 82nd ?

[Tribesman]

You could at least admit that your contempt for the man caused you to jump to conclusions.
When faced with a lying dickhead of very limited capacity of logical reasoning then it isn't that much of a jump is it ?
Or are you gping to argue that shrub somehow manages to rise above the general level of ineptitude and incompetance that other politicians strive to obtain?

A herd of squeezed bulls

[Proletariat]

Did or did not the States emerrrgency plan contain (with provisions for federal aid) a plan trhat was set up for over 61,000 fatalities .?were there federal resources at hand ?did 61,000 people die??????

I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

Before waxing incoherent, could you at least not put a space before every comma, period, exclamation, question mark you type? It makes it very difficult to read your posts most of the time, Tribesman.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Looks like someones been hitting the bottle a bit hard here.

[Aenlic]

"specifically ordered the Red Cross to not set up in New Orleans"? I don't remember Gawain saying that. But if you're suggesting the chief executive of the state isn't responsible for what her appointees do, then you probably owe Bush a few apologies.

But you're still missing (dodging?) the point. You (and others) were wrong when you suggested Bush's incompetence was to blame for the slow flow of relief supplies into New Orleans. You could at least admit that your contempt for the man caused you to jump to conclusions.

The difference between us at the moment, well one of many, is that I have never said that the mayor or the governor aren't to blame. While you have gone out of your way to blame only them and defended Bush at every step. If, as you claim, the governor is to blame solely because she is at the head of the chain of command, then so is Bush - for the very same reason. And yet, even after making that valid point, you then proceed to claim that blaming Bush is jumping to conclusions and that blaming Bush is wrong. You quite simply can't see the problem with that.

And I do have a link to the source of the story about FEMA and the air marshalls and baggage screeners. It was even on at least two national news networks, although I haven't bothered to check further. My point was that you aren't capable of dealing with the information; because you're too wrapped up in playing cover Bush's ass and blame the Democrats.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

The difference between us at the moment, well one of many, is that I have never said that the mayor or the governor aren't to blame. While you have gone out of your way to blame only them and defended Bush at every step. If, as you claim, the governor is to blame solely because she is at the head of the chain of command, then so is Bush - for the very same reason. And yet, even after making that valid point, you then proceed to claim that blaming Bush is jumping to conclusions and that blaming Bush is wrong. You quite simply can't see the problem with that.

THe shoe here is on the other foot. We have all said that trying to blame it all on Bush or anyone else for that matter is ludicrous. Its the left who claim its all Bushs fault. We dont say hes blameless but that theres lots of blame to be passed around. In fact I started a thread on it. I suggest you go look. Old George is right up there on the blame list.

[Tribesman]

I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
It is quite simple , the States evacuation plan in the event of a disaster in a worst case scenario reaconed that even with federal assistance over 10% of the population would become fatalities .
Did over 10% of the population die ?
No , then despite the failures of aspects of the plan and the failure of co-ordination and absence of timely federal assistance it wasn't as bad as they invisaged .

Its the left who claim its all Bushs fault.
Do they ? Where ? All I see is people criticising the response at every level .
Or alternatively , people balming people at every level apart from the very top of the chain .
So who is being blinkered here Gawain ?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Do they ? Where ? All I see is people criticising the response at every level .

Here you do yes but not in the mainstream media. There its all or mostly Bushs fault.

So who is being blinkered here Gawain ?

It seems you still are.