Countdown to Open Beta - SENATVS POPVLVSQVE ROMANVS

[khelvan]

As an aside, this faction is taking up more than double the model slots of any other faction, close to triple, as well as three separate reform events, and numerous other specials that no other faction will have. The military of ancient Rome takes extra space to show properly, and while there have been a few grumblings here or there at the number of models that Rome gets compared to other factions, we have always been committed to present it properly.

Rome will be shown in her full glory, as we have always intended, from the very beginning. Let there be no doubt that our intentions, from the very start, were to show all factions and cultures as they should be shown. That we had to sacrifice units elsewhere to show Rome should only underline how dedicated we are to a proper representation of all factions.

[Steppe Merc]

The military of ancient Rome takes extra space to show properly, and while there have been a few grumblings here or there at the number of models that Rome gets compared to other factions, we have always been committed to present it properly.

Now looking at these units, my old objections do seem quite weak, however.

[Divinus Arma]

yaaayyyyyy!!!!!


Looks great!

I can't help but notice the biography... Is that going to be on a few starting characters, or will that pop up later too?

Great job! I also want it now.

[Marinakis]

yaaayyyyyy!!!!!


Looks great!

I can't help but notice the biography... Is that going to be on a few starting characters, or will that pop up later too?

Great job! I also want it now.

oo good question, i second that

[econ21]

Brilliant stuff. I am very happy to see you've put some Imperial units in. I'm not sure I'll ever make it to the required date, but it's nice to see some iconic legions and Praetorians. Plus some other units I'd never heard of, as usual! I can't wait, but then again - we're running out of factions to preview, so hopefully we don't have to wait much longer.

[Malrubius]

I can't help but notice the biography... Is that going to be on a few starting characters, or will that pop up later too?

We would like to do it for every general present at the start of the game, but we don't have enough information for all of them to merit a full biography. Later generals will have names randomly given to them by the game engine, so they wouldn't match historical figures.

[Divinus Arma]

We would like to do it for every general present at the start of the game, but we don't have enough information for all of them to merit a full biography. Later generals will have names randomly given to them by the game engine, so they wouldn't match historical figures.

Thanks for answering my question Malrubius! So, if I understand correctly, you will have a few biographies written for various characters at the start of the game. Is that correct?

By the way, I am totally intrigued by the trait system you guys talked about in the "features and gameplay" preview. Specifically:

To accomplish this, a new system was developed, where each general has a set of Ability and Personality stats, similar to what you might find in a role-playing game. These 6 primary traits are the backbone of the EB system, and they affect the acquisition of many of the other traits and even ancillaries.

I am dying to know more. 6 primary traits? Can you please elaborate?

Also, I think you are a genius man! Thanks for joining EB! Is your trait mod compatible with RTR6? I am playing that until EB hits the shelves.


Oh, and one more note: Khelvan, these previews will go great in a downloadable read-me attachment. If you could throw it on PDF and make it "pretty", it would put Prima's little guide to shame! Do you have someone on this or could I contribute in some way putting stuff together? I'll be happy to elaborate on my qualifications as an asynchronous distance technology-centric project coordinator if you need me to. Yes, I have a life other than alcohol and TW.

[VandalCarthage]

asynchronous distance technology-centric project coordinator

Isn't that like 'telecommunications foreign marketing director of technology and development?' A title for a job that doesn't really do or mean anything

[Divinus Arma]

Isn't that like 'telecommunications foreign marketing director of technology and development?' A title for a job that doesn't really do or mean anything

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What was that sound? Oh, yeah - the dropping of jaws across the globe.

CA, a "dozen" modders just made you look like crap.









Holy Roma Preview, Batman!

[Malrubius]

Thanks for answering my question Malrubius! So, if I understand correctly, you will have a few biographies written for various characters at the start of the game. Is that correct?

Yep, you're correct. After that point, you'll just have to make your own history

I am dying to know more. 6 primary traits? Can you please elaborate?

As you may have seen in the screenshots of generals, we have measurements of things like intelligence, charisma, selfishness, etc. An intelligent general is more likely to make a good mathematician, for example.

Also, I think you are a genius man! Thanks for joining EB! Is your trait mod compatible with RTR6? I am playing that until EB hits the shelves.

No genius here, it's more like building something with Lego blocks. I have certain types of blocks I can put together to build something that someone like Teleklos or Ranika (to name a couple among many) has described for me. Anybody who has the time to waste could do the same things I've done.

I'm happy to be doing this for EB, and I'm glad they invited me to join.




Check the GAFHMod thread for compatibility issues: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...6&postcount=23

[Shigawire]

We're happy to have you aboard!

[Danest]

Hmm, interesting. So if I understand, the Triarii "upgrade" from breastplates to chainmail. This might be the first time I've got a real chance to actually learn things from a viceo game that I haven't seen in too many books (I'm sure they're out there though, obviously). The breastplates were bronze, right, and that was the "problem with them I assume? Middle ages/rennaisance actually went the opposite, moving from chain to solid armor, yes? - but then both were probably iron. Oh, and man, those poor early hastati must have suffered horrible casualties if they were sent in first against a heavy phalanx.

[kayapó]

No genius here, it's more like building something with Lego blocks. I have certain types of blocks I can put together to build something that someone like Teleklos or Ranika (to name a couple among many) has described for me. Anybody who has the time to waste could do the same things I've done. I'm happy to be doing this for EB, and I'm glad they invited me to join.

He is being modest...

And I can say that I'm happy to help him out with this stuff.

[Divinus Arma]

As you may have seen in the screenshots of generals, we have measurements of things like intelligence, charisma, selfishness, etc. An intelligent general is more likely to make a good mathematician, for example.

Okay. I saw on each of the characters here (And on the features/gameplay preview) the following two traits:

1. Unselfish/Optimistic/Loyal
2. Intelligent/Charismatic/Vigorous

So, I am assuming that each new character is born with two traits that determine everything else, and that these two traits are selected at random from a number of other traits, each of which is incompatible with a trait in the same category.

In other words, there are two base trait strings that are compatible with each other. The first trait string determines selfishness, life outlook, and loyalty while the second trait string determines intelligence, charisma, and vitality.

As an example, a character can be born with the traits:

Unselfish/Optimistic/Loyal and Intelligent/Charismatic/Vigorous

but not

Unselfish/charismatic/Loyal and Intelligent/optimistic/vigorous


I also noticed that these traits are generally one or the other. A character is either selfish or unselfish, charismatic or uncharismatic, loyal or unloyal.

This leads me to guess that there are

0/0/0, 1/0/0, 0/1/0, 0/0/1, 1/1/0, 0/1/1, 1/1/1, 1/0/1 = Eight possibilities for each trait category. Combines this with a second base trait category and you have either Eight x 2 = 16 or probably, if you want to be really complicated (which I suspect since this EB):

000000, 100000, 010000, 001000, 000100, 000010, 000001, 110000, 101000, 100100, 100010, 100001, 111000, 110100, 110010, 110001, 111100, 111010, 111001, 111110, 111101, 111111, 011111, 101111, 110111, and so on... wow!!

Many base trait options. Is that right?

From here, one of these many base trait possibilities will allow or restrict the emergence of attribute-conferring trait strings and ancilliaries.

So an intelligent character may gain ancilliaries like "brilliant inventor" and trait strings like bureaucrat-good bureaucrat-and so on.

I am also assuming that the base traits are always born traits, confer little by way of attributes themselves, and do not change or develop like a string.


Am I on the right path at least a little?