Countdown to Open Beta - SENATVS POPVLVSQVE ROMANVS

[jerby]

wich dates?

as a side-note: the cavalry you see in the third-pic of the 'punic wars' the white one wiht teh 2h-lance and a strapped shield: you might wanna change the place the shield is held, because right now it 'collides' when the animation is used. the shield is pointlessly resting on the horse. just to help.

[VandalCarthage]

I love that you have to scoll 9 tenths of the way down the page to reach comments

[jerby]

yeah..and there are only 4 comments

further Q's:
here's the pic:

1: what's with teh shield?
2: what that golden blob next to the horse's head
3: will you be redoing generals as well??

[khelvan]

1: what's with teh shield?
2: what that golden blob next to the horse's head
3: will you be redoing generals as well??

1) As I said, clipping is an unfortunate sacrifice we make to create our two-handed animations.

2) It is a gold plate on the horse's forehead.

3) Yes, generals are the lowest priority of all units.

[jerby]

sorry for double posting 1 Q.
why can't you chnage the holding position of teh shield? right now it's "strapped" around the wrist. why not strap it above the elbow?
mayube historical accuracy will be "less" but at least it wont clip.

[vizigothe]

i have been waiting for this!
3 reforms! simply awesome

[DemonArchangel]

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[AggonyDuck]

Those Cohors Evocata look so wonderful. I've found myself a new fav unit. Will be fun to use them in campaign too.

[Han]

ya I gotta admit they are all missing the redness I usually see in Roman armies looks mad white lol but the Cohorts looks hot man...

[Marinakis]

Is it just me or the Itallians and Greeks a little to white, they look almost nortic.

Shouldnt they be a mix beween how they are now and the libyan-phoenicians


P.S. 10/10 on the romans, 20/10 on EB as a whole so far

[the_handsome_viking]

Is it just me or the Itallians and Greeks a little to white, they look almost nortic.

Shouldnt they be a mix beween how they are now and the libyan-phoenicians


P.S. 10/10 on the romans, 20/10 on EB as a whole so far

ive got a friend whos mother is lebanese(phoenician) and she has light skin, green eyes and brown hair.
and apparently its quite common in lebanon.http://www.stylemodeling.com/index1.htm

which makes me wonder if its accurate to depict the carthaginians as dark as they are in those pictures above.

either way it doesnt really matter, i could always just justify the darkness as "they got a suntan from drilling all day in the sun"

im british and im pretty sure that if i was hanging around doing military drills in tunisia to this day, id get a tan too.

also i've also met loads and loads of light skinned greeks and southern italians.
(I say southern italians because northern italians tend to come from the lombards)

[Marinakis]

ive got a friend whos mother is lebanese(phoenician) and she has light skin, green eyes and brown hair.
and apparently its quite common in lebanon.http://www.stylemodeling.com/index1.htm

which makes me wonder if its accurate to depict the carthaginians as dark as they are in those pictures above.

either way it doesnt really matter, i could always just justify the darkness as "they got a suntan from drilling all day in the sun"

im british and im pretty sure that if i was hanging around doing military drills in tunisia to this day, id get a tan too.

also i've also met loads and loads of light skinned greeks and southern italians.
(I say southern italians because northern italians tend to come from the lombards)

Well Northern greeks tend to be more white, and southern italy is heavily greek (aka Epirus, northern greece)

About the Phoenicians in the game being to dark you have to remember they are mixed with Libyan, numbians, and other africans in carthage.

Seeing how the greek world was dominated by Northern greek peoples at this time i guess its the beter compromise to pick the more Nortic look.

However, Italians, true italians (cantral italy) are quite Darkly tanned peoples.




P.S. Lebenon is not Phoenician. Acording to their own nations stats they are

- Arab 95%, Armenian 4%, other 1%

The "white" look is most likely their armenian side, half my family is Armenian and they look european.

[khelvan]

wich dates?

as a side-note: the cavalry you see in the third-pic of the 'punic wars' the white one wiht teh 2h-lance and a strapped shield: you might wanna change the place the shield is held, because right now it 'collides' when the animation is used. the shield is pointlessly resting on the horse. just to help.

Well, for instance, we're using 107 BC for the Marian Reforms at the moment. Later we'll change these to be triggers based on factors that led to the army historically reforming.

Some sacrifices must be made to make the two-handed animations, there is no getting around this, and one of these is shield clipping.

[Big_John]

Well, for instance, we're using 107 BC for the Marian Reforms at the moment. Later we'll change these to be triggers based on factors that led to the army historically reforming.

can the triggers have multiple conditions? and can there be multiple instances of trigger conditions for a given event?

[octavian]

looks awesome guys!! :D


just a note on one of the traits... "-1 to unrest (has a negative effect on public order)" now correct me if im wrong but shouldn't it either be, "+1 to unrest" or "has a postive effect on public order"

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[Reverend Joe]

"Tell me, is something eluding you, sunshine- is this not what you expected to see?"

Beautiful job with the Romans. Ave Khelvan, moritvri te salvtamvs! (the only thing I remember from latin class)

[Malrubius]

just a note on one of the traits... "-1 to unrest (has a negative effect on pubic order)" now correct me if im wrong but shouldn't it either be, "+1 to unrest" or "has a postive effect on public order"

Yeah, you're right, thanks for pointing that out. It should be "+1 to unrest (has a negative effect on public order)." Oops, can't blame anybody for that one but myself.

[Shigawire]

Octavian: pubic order? What's that, meticulous combing of the pubic hair into a quincunx?


Ok.. ok.. sorry for the primitive humor.. carry on..

[econ21]

Well, for instance, we're using 107 BC for the Marian Reforms at the moment.

Will anyone ever see these reforms? If EB has four turns per year (one for each seasons) and starts at 280BC, that means we have to play 692 turns to get to the Marian reforms. I don't think anyone is going to play that long. And goodness knows how long it would take to get Imperial reforms.

Am I missing anything? (e.g. variable start dates for campaigns? Like the early/high/late in MTW?).

One problem I have with RTR is that they have rather dragged out the campaign. And again, I am not sure anyone has seen Marian reforms with RTR 6.0. One of the main improvements of RTW over MTW and STW was that it made it easier to actually finish a campaign.

[khelvan]

Will anyone ever see these reforms? If EB has four turns per year (one for each seasons) and starts at 280BC, that means we have to play 692 turns to get to the Marian reforms. I don't think anyone is going to play that long. And goodness knows how long it would take to get Imperial reforms.

We've had test games that went longer, but not to worry. This is just a stopgap until we have the time to put together real triggers for them. We'll examine what conflicts with which type of cultures would lead to such reforms, and then when such things happen in the game, there will be a chance for the reforms to happen.

Just like what we're doing with the Seleukid Kataphraktoi reforms, but more complicated.