Countdown to Open Beta - SENATVS POPVLVSQVE ROMANVS

[Productivity]

From everything I've read, while it does free two faction slots, those two faction slots are strongly bound to the roman faction, so from a gameplay PoV can't be used. ie. you can't break their shared line of site etc.

[metatron]

From everything I've read, while it does free two faction slots, those two faction slots are strongly bound to the roman faction, so from a gameplay PoV can't be used. ie. you can't break their shared line of site etc.

If they're at war they can, IIRC.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Yehaa! All I can say is thanks EB for giving me the R:TW I originally wanted! Now it'll finally be possible to enjoy the punic and gallic wars the way it wasn't possible in vanilla R:TW. BTW, this leaves some questions - if there's only one roman faction, then there are 3 unused, right? One of those - the SPQR - would be required in order to get rid of the hardcoded senate system. This means a total of 4 factions are left. Dacia will most certainly be included. About Thrace I don't know. But if there are 3 more apart from Dacia, then the other major gallic faction, Illyria and Numidia come to mind as possibilities.

[Urnamma]

You will most certainly NOT see Illyria in EB. They were not a united people whatsoever in the period. Their fighting style is unique, in reality. Everyone seems to think they'd have all these hoplites and what not, but they're thinking 500 B.C., not 270

[O_Stratigos]

Damn you EB now I HAVE to play the Romans for the first time ever!!

O_Stratigos

[the_handsome_viking]

In all honesty, this mod not only could probably work as an educational tool, but it is also quite clearly a true work of art.

What drew me to this mod was the desire to see historically accurate celtic and germanic units but now im really quite interested in playing rome.

you can now really see the little latini tribe rise up from obscurity to become the worlds first superpower.

this mod is really amazing.

all of you guys should pat yourself on the back =)

great work 11 out of 10 an extra point added for the sheer sexiness of these units

[The_Mark]

great work 11 out of 10 an extra point added for the sheer sexiness of these units

You should see the newest artwork by webbird*

*not (yet) released for public viewing

Sorry webbird, I couldn't resist

[the_handsome_viking]

Is it just me or the Itallians and Greeks a little to white, they look almost nortic.

Shouldnt they be a mix beween how they are now and the libyan-phoenicians


P.S. 10/10 on the romans, 20/10 on EB as a whole so far

ive got a friend whos mother is lebanese(phoenician) and she has light skin, green eyes and brown hair.
and apparently its quite common in lebanon.http://www.stylemodeling.com/index1.htm

which makes me wonder if its accurate to depict the carthaginians as dark as they are in those pictures above.

either way it doesnt really matter, i could always just justify the darkness as "they got a suntan from drilling all day in the sun"

im british and im pretty sure that if i was hanging around doing military drills in tunisia to this day, id get a tan too.

also i've also met loads and loads of light skinned greeks and southern italians.
(I say southern italians because northern italians tend to come from the lombards)

[the_handsome_viking]

You should see the newest artwork by webbird*

*not (yet) released for public viewing

more gallic winky boys? *shudders*

[Geoffrey S]

I'd been intending most definitely not to start playing EB as the Romans, to sample some of the less well-known factions. But as with all other factions the Romans look exceptional and intriguing to play as; you're definitely making it a challenge to choose a favourite. Should certainly stop those complaining about a biased portrayel. Congratulations on a job well done!

[Spendios]

Rome in all her glory ! Brilliant preview, the units are awesome and the amount of informations on the Romans is really impressive.
Congratulations!

[Productivity]

If they're at war they can, IIRC.

Yes, but from memory, they can't start at war - thus no matter what you do, if you use those slots you are going to have a power bloc - something which is unrealistic and thus horrifying to the EB crew.

[Biffy]

I must say with the other faction previews, I'd skim through the paragraphs of the factions' historical information and background to get to the units and other features. After reading all the paragraphs about the development of rome, which included tons of information that I was never taught at school, I'm going to go back to the other previews and find the time to read them. Since I joined this forum, my interest in the ancient civilizations has been re-established and is greater than before. There is just an epic amount of information on a vast array of different factions of the time I didnt know existed. History at school was crap, all we were taught about was on a little bit of Rome, and what the romans did for us, and how big the empire was, and some stuff about their army. The only other civilization we looked at was ancient greece, which was a brief look at some of the legends. I think that schools should focus more on ancient history, as opposed to shite like 'medicine through time'. Not only will EB be a joy to play because of my urge to play this game with the highest of historical realism, but it will be great to learn about these ancient nations, cultures, the places, the people, wars, religions etc. How great would it be to have a history teacher whack this game on a big screen infront of a class and take them on a tour through the ancient world, as opposed to reading dull passages in a knackered-out text book.

I love the evolution of the roman army it's great, and the look of it, from a hellenic-like army to the roman legions everyone thinks of today.

Great job everyone at EB

[Biffy]

P.S. Anyone know why I have an angry face by the topic of my reply?

[Biffy]

Oh, the icons, i thought they would show up as they are when you select them.

[Geoffrey S]

A quick question about politics: how are the various offices going to be represented in EB (consul, praetor, the like), and the standing of various generals in the senate? And are there going to be documents included with EB to indicate how armies of the various nations were formed, as some kind of houserules/guidelines so players can attempt to play in authentic ways?

BTW, I love the work on the various characters, both in the ancillaries and trait format. Very indepth.

[KingOfTheIsles]

Yes, but from memory, they can't start at war - thus no matter what you do, if you use those slots you are going to have a power bloc - something which is unrealistic and thus horrifying to the EB crew.

I believe that they can start at war (although I'm not entirely sure), but even if they can, it may not be in the team's interest to do so. If they use the Roman slots for, for example, three Gallic factions, they may be able to include a script to use an event to force war between the factions (and thus break line of sight problems).

[Sheep]

One idea (not that it is what is going to happen) would be to use Parthia/Bactria/Seleucids as the three Roman factions since they start off as all part of the Seleucid Empire and then have an event where Parthia and Bactria break off. I am not sure what complications this would produce however.

[VandalCarthage]

I must say with the other faction previews, I'd skim through the paragraphs of the factions' historical information and background to get to the units and other features. After reading all the paragraphs about the development of rome, which included tons of information that I was never taught at school, I'm going to go back to the other previews and find the time to read them.

Rome in all her glory ! Brilliant preview, the units are awesome and the amount of informations on the Romans is really impressive.

It's nice to know that some people are at least skimming my and Legio's 11 page history Thanks though guys.

@ Biffy: once you really delve into some of this information, it's incredibly interesting, and staggering compared to what you might hear in school. There's obviously not enough time for individual teachers to go into as much depth as you can with specific historical works, but it's really great when you can enlighten yourself as to the smaller details

[Geoffrey S]

Once you really delve into some of this information, it's incredibly interesting, and staggering compared to what you might hear in school. There's obviously not enough time for individual teachers to go into as much depth as you can with specific historical works, but it's really great when you can enlighten yourself as to the smaller details.

It certainly is. It's been very interesting to read the detailed descriptions, and the texts have frequently moved me to look up more information in the recommended reading. It's all been most inspiring.

[Chester]

Fucking Brilliant. I tip my hat to EB.

[Ludens]

Beautifull work, truly. I cannot wait to play this. Unfortunately, I will have to wait.

Have mercy EB: please hurry up .

[Steppe Merc]

You should see the newest artwork by webbird*

*not (yet) released for public viewing

Sorry webbird, I couldn't resist

One idea (not that it is what is going to happen) would be to use Parthia/Bactria/Seleucids as the three Roman factions since they start off as all part of the Seleucid Empire and then have an event where Parthia and Bactria break off. I am not sure what complications this would produce however.

At the beggining of the game, the Parni were not under Selecuid control. Parthia was, but not the people who became the Parthians, they were still on the steppe.

[alman7272]

About Thrace I don't know. But if there are 3 more apart from Dacia, then the other major gallic faction, Illyria and Numidia come to mind as possibilities.

I wouldn't mind if they cut Thrace, but for the other three slots I certainly would prefer to have at least one Arab faction like Nabataea or Saba (or maybe even the Garamantians and whatnot). Arabia gets so little coverage in ancient times. For the other two, perhaps Arverni and Numidia or two kickass factions we'd never think of.

[Turin]

Well done, well done!

One thing though, not sure if this was intentional or not but...

The conical helms on the principes and hastati seem... non-conically. There is no smooth curve around the helm. It almost looks like 8 triangles stitched around each other.

[Moros]

omg this is...omg...



btw: in the last battle screenshot there is an unpreviewed gallic unit, what unit is it?

[Birka Viking]

Wow....This preview is awesome....EB you are my heroes......

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

I cry for the forthcoming death of my social life.

Nice job.

[KSEG]

It looks absolutely stunning...

But just 1 little thing.
Why V is used instead of U in SENATVS POPVLVSQVE ROMANVS?
Latin language didn't had U?

[metatron]

^They had the sound, but not the letter.