Sport Utility Vehicles - Your Opinion

[Steppe Merc]

Well they are big. Normal cars are small. Small things get crunched by big things.
See?

[Strike For The South]

Well they are big. Normal cars are small. Small things get crunched by big things.
See?

Any evidence this happens more often than two cars

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

they totally trash normal cars. The impact is much higher and makes normal cars just crumple.

[JimBob]

If your into off-roading, live in Montana and your neighbor is 10 miles away, or if you work in the woods regularly, sure you need it. But its those damn suburbanite soccer moms who think roughing it is the lake cabin that gets two channels, that's just dumb.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Fashion SUVs annoy me. No-one who actually needs off-road capability drives a bloody Porsche 4X4. It just seems slightly crazy to me that off-road vehicles are marketed to people who will never, ever drive them on anything other than the school run.

I dislike the arrogance of them too. Driving one is like saying 'My life is more important than yours, so I must drive this huge vehicle that will crush you in a collision, while preserving my life'.

Personally I think we should bring in legislation which requires you to prove you need an off-road vehicle before you can buy one.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

soccer moms:
what's wrong with mini-vans and people carriers nowadays???????

[Steppe Merc]

The worst is not the soccer moms. It's the rich 17 and 18 year olds who drive Humvees and SUVs, and whose parent's bought it for them. And live in a suburb.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

I was wondering where those little girls got their fancy cars.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

The worst is not the soccer moms. It's the rich 17 and 18 year olds who drive Humvees and SUVs, and whose parent's bought it for them. And live in a suburb.

The type of driver you're describing there will invariably be on a mobile phone as well, and veering all over the road as a result of it.

[Kanamori]

A question is there really any evidence that SUVs are really "killing machiens"

Picture this: A pretty little butterfly collides with a coach bus. The butterfly pushes on the coach bus as it collides into it. The bus also pushes into the butterfly, admittedly quite a lot harder. Becuase the bus is xxxx X more massive the bus pushes xxxx X harder with devistating and graphic results. Now, Imagine this: A Geo Metro, bearing a "Bush lied, People Died" sticker, collides with a big Jeep. As in the earlier example, there are similar, but less drastic, results. Big Jeep is doing a lot better than the little Geo.

[Crazed Rabbit]

My opinion?

meh.

I don't care. Nor do I care for one. But the way some people act, its as though people were clubbing baby seals and burning the whole body.

Crazed Rabbit

[Skomatth]

Picture this: A pretty little butterfly collides with a coach bus. The butterfly pushes on the coach bus as it collides into it. The bus also pushes into the butterfly, admittedly quite a lot harder. Becuase the bus is xxxx X more massive the bus pushes xxxx X harder with devistating and graphic results. .

Actually the butterfly and the coach feel the same force. It's the resulting acceleration that differs.

[PanzerJaeger]

This is interesting. There are tons of SUV owners on the roads but apparently not at the .org. I seem to be the only SUV owner here.. I wonder why that is. In fact, there seems to be a palpable anger over them and their owners that is hard to understand.

Anyway, any vehicle is a killing machine with someone at the wheel who cannot operate it correctly. I would wager far more people have been killed in collisions with cars than SUVs.

[Kanamori]

Actually the butterfly and the coach feel the same force. It's the resulting acceleration that differs.

Quite right, that's what I get for using what I seemed to remember rather than using the equation to use my words correctly

[Productivity]

I would wager far more people have been killed in collisions with cars than SUVs.

In absolute numbers, almost certainly.

Per vehicle, I doubt it.

[ICantSpellDawg]

If your into off-roading, live in Montana and your neighbor is 10 miles away, or if you work in the woods regularly, sure you need it. But its those damn suburbanite soccer moms who think roughing it is the lake cabin that gets two channels, that's just dumb.

i personally thin kthat it is stupid - but my family has a suburban

my father's reasoning is that if he feels like spending the money on gas in order to ensure that his family is in a tank in case of an accident, it is his perrogative.

i believe that laws regulating companies production of high emulsion tank-vehicles should exist, but that people should be free to decide their own priorities when it doesnt break any laws

whether or not laws should be altered or not is not what i am arguing

[GoreBag]

I don't like SUV's, but then, I don't like cars at all. I don't really have a problem with people who drive them into the woods and use them, well, for the purpose for which they were created. The same thing goes for pickup trucks?

[Strike For The South]

I don't like SUV's, but then, I don't like cars at all. I don't really have a problem with people who drive them into the woods and use them, well, for the purpose for which they were created. The same thing goes for pickup trucks?

Pickups have so many uses you can carry kegs feed smaller vehicles people you can sleep in the bed or sleep with someone so versitale so amazing sorry for hijacking

[GoreBag]

Pickups have so many uses you can carry kegs feed smaller vehicles people you can sleep in the bed or sleep with someone so versitale so amazing sorry for hijacking

You can do all that with any other car.

[ICantSpellDawg]

in a similar arguement, it is unethical to work out and become strong, because in the event of hitting someone, you are more likely to do serious harm to them.

who would have thought that we would see socialists arguing against people having better/safer stuff than others or being responsible for themselves? God, thank you for making the world look a little more like Harrison Bergeron

[Tachikaze]

There are very few people who need an SUV. First of all, for their size, they don't hold much. A full-sized van holds a lot more passengers or cargo with the same gas mileage. Spacewise, SUVs are very inefficient. I can carry more cargo in my Mazda mini pickup that gets 30 miles per gallon (about 13km per liter, I think).

The vast majority of SUV owners never take them into situations that require four-wheel-drive or excessively high ground clearance.

People buy SUVs because they are fashionable. It's disgusting that people buy these gas pigs because of a fad. If they really wanted to "support the troops" and make the US self-sufficient in oil, they would buy fuel-efficient cars. While thousands of people are giving their lives in Iraq for the oil companies, the SUV owners are here using as much fuel as they can to make the US more fuel-dependent and more polluted in the bargain. This high demand for gasoline drives the prices up for all of us.

In addition, I'm tired of huge vehicles taking up valuable parking space, and taking ten minutes to back out of said space because they are so long and have enormous turning radiuses. The drivers also can't see around them.

In a related note, I was down at San Diego's Mission Bay last weekend. In a time of national crisis with gas supply problems, what did I see? Everywhere, people were speeding around in V8-powered boats and other gas-guzzling watercraft. They can't take a weekend off from their petrol-gorging fun even in a time of disaster! There were just as many internal combustion watercraft emitting smoke and dumping unused fuel into the water than ever.

Stop supporting the US by waving flags and singing anthems. Support the nation by being conscious of its needs. Stop entertaining yourselves like unsupervised children and start being mature, conscientious people.