Well Im sure youve all heard or thought of this one. Is it possible we and the whole universe are nothing more than relatively a molecule in a much larger entity?
Well Im sure youve all heard or thought of this one. Is it possible we and the whole universe are nothing more than relatively a molecule in a much larger entity?
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We are a pimple on the ass of an ant. Is that what you are saying?![]()
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No its not and you shall be silenced for your heresyOriginally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Possible yes, unlikely yes.Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
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Our galaxy might be part of a another star system much larger then that, and then that could a part of another much larger and more unpredictable then that. In other words we'll never know and it's all hopless.![]()
Thats basicly it. Could be worse we could be a hemroid in the ass of whatever.We are a pimple on the ass of an ant. Is that what you are saying?Or as someone else here once said we could all be part of a sims program on some futuristic mainframe.
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If we were all sims on a futeristic mainframe the amount of ass that would kick would be unimaginable
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
maybe we are all figments of my imagination?
Certainly notOriginally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff
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Sjakihata:
maybe that's just me thinking that,eh?
To some degree Descartes' Cogito ergo sum, can be used to deny many of the proposed scenarios, such as us being in a computer game or what not.
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If indeed I am an object of your imagination, surely you'd be able to predict my next post and in what threat in which im posting, no? Are you up for the challenge?Originally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff
How we do it: you'll write down, privately, in what threat i'll be posting and exactly what i'll be saying. then I do post and you reveal your prediction in this very thread, ok?
I'll post it in the next 10 mins after you ok or no-go on my suggestion.
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Not until I imagine it. By that time you will have posted it.If indeed I am an object of your imagination, surely you'd be able to predict my next post and in what threat in which im posting, no? Are you up for the challenge?![]()
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The keyword here is predictOriginally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
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Sjakihata:
that wouldn't work if we are both figments of my own imagination. I can't predict what I'll imagine or not.
A question for you Gawain. Would you find that if such theory was true, that we were some particle of something bigger, it would exclude religion (im thinking christianity)? Or not? please substantiate your claimOriginally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
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Yup. What started me thinking about this again was a show where the mentioned theve found all sorts of engines in simple cells that they never knew were there.I've thought the same thing before. And it makes sense when you consider that everything is made up of little atoms, which happen to rather resemble little solar systems. Who knows? Maybe the universe is like one big cell in a larger entity? Who knows.
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Obviously, you cannot be a figment of your own imagination, who is there to imagine it then? Someone must, physically, posses the imagination, I think.Originally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff
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in that case, how about I am also you and we are both figments of my imagination, which would also be your imagination.
What if the physical world is just a figment of my/our imagination?
Talk about skizofrenia (sp?).Originally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff
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We (you and I) must say then, that we have a very good imagination, no? We think that's the only conclusion we can logically draw from that.
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we/I are most Excellent![]()
They don't necessarily look the way they are depicted, and they don't necessarily have a physical form either.Originally Posted by GC
The solar system comparison is an extreme simplification usually used in secondary schools. Its not even a good simplification, its just used because its what laypeople can understand without much explanation.
Eppur si muove
Easy answer: It wouldnt look like anything.
The wavelength of visible light is MUCH too large to be "seeing" anything anywhere near the scale of an atom.
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Eppur si muove
I do, of course.Originally Posted by Sjakihata
Unlikely. A part of a machine must have a function. The universe is too big have a specialized purpose or function.Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Mind you, the earth is practically a ball-of-nothing compared to the rest of the universe.
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"Can you explain why blue looks blue?" - Francis Crick
Who said anything about a machine or function? And whats big? Thats what this thread is all about. Its big relative to us but how big is it in the overall scheme of things? Whats past the edges of the universe or is that all there is?Unlikely. A part of a machine must have a function. The universe is too big have a specialized purpose or function.
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There's a joke about people who smoke too much pot before getting on internet forums lurking here somewhere.
You are a machine. Your whole body is a machine.Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
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"Can you explain why blue looks blue?" - Francis Crick
Gawain is older then pot. I wonder if Gawain's post count will grow so large that the org will implode and the universe will become nothingness again.Originally Posted by Proletariat
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