Who was who among the Germanic tribes?

[Longshanks]

When reading about the Germans during the days of the Roman Republic or the Early Empire, they are usually referred to by latinized names. (Ubii, Suevi, Marcommani ect.) When reading about the late Roman Empire the Germanic tribes seem to be referred to by more Germanic names. (Franks, Angles, Saxons, Lombards ect.)

I'm assuming that in many cases these are probably the same tribes and we just remember them by different names in different periods. I was wondering if any of you could help me out in matching them up, or possibly post a good link or two.

Thanks!

[lars573]

A lot of the time the Germanic groups in the later Roman empire were confederations of several tribes. You don't here about the Franks or Alemanni or Vandals because they didn't exist. You don't hear about Goths or Saxons because they were still in the deep dark forests of Denmark (Saxons) and Sweden (Goths).

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Go ask this question on the Europa Barbarorum sub-forum. You will find at least 3 folks there who have spent months researching just this kind of info. They'll have a list of source-bookos for you as well.

Seamus

[caesar44]

Tacitus's "Germania" is the oldest analysis of the subject , and a good place to start with -

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/tacitus1.html

[Franconicus]

They made not only confederations but also secession. I think the Franks were just a group of men that lived 'free', kind of outlaws.

[Longshanks]

Tacitus's "Germania" is the oldest analysis of the subject , and a good place to start with -

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/tacitus1.html

I've read Tacitus' Germania. It is of no help as far as determining who was who among the Germanic tribes in different eras. The names used by Tacitus are the Latinized names used for the Germanic tribes in the early Roman Republican period and the early Empire. That doesn't tell me if any of those tribes mentioned later are referred as (or a part of) the Franks, or the Saxons, or the Vandals ect. I suppose I could examine the territory of those tribes and match it up with the territory controlled by the later tribal confederations, but that is bound to be filled with mistakes. The Germans warred with each other and there were several migrations, meaning tribal lands were bound to be in flux somewhat.

Next time take the time to actually read posts before arrogantly giving them a thumbs down.

[caesar44]

What ?????????????????
Are you attacking me for some thing here ?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

A Duel of Kings....

Caesar44, as aggreived, you have choice of weapons.

Longshanks (Sr. Member), upon choice of weapons your seniority gives you the right to name time and venue.

Noble Sirs: Would you care to name your seconds? Moreover, we must know if these seconds are participants or guards to honor.

Continue to acquit yourselves with honor, sirs. I await your response.

Seamus

[Louis VI the Fat]

Next time take the time to actually read posts before arrogantly giving them a thumbs down.

My, that's an incentive for people to post some links on this subject...

[Mouzafphaerre]

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There's a buglet in the reply screen; thumb-down appears (in popup text) as wink.
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[caesar44]

A Duel of Kings....

Caesar44, as aggreived, you have choice of weapons.

Longshanks (Sr. Member), upon choice of weapons your seniority gives you the right to name time and venue.

Noble Sirs: Would you care to name your seconds? Moreover, we must know if these seconds are participants or guards to honor.

Continue to acquit yourselves with honor, sirs. I await your response.

Seamus

Belive me the thumbs down was nonsense just a mistake but for the dual I choose -