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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonGod
    Well, Celts were never considered a racial group. I don't know about Iceland, though. I've never heard anything like that.

    The Philippines? That's just silly hyperbole.
    why? Roman Catholic countries tend to have much more in common than non-Roman Catholic countries. Common religious values do much more to unify a people than language or blood. ideologies are both the most unifying and divisive things in the world. more than blood, most definitly
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    I would contest that. The whole idea was only a conjectural statement, however, and the bits about Brittanny, Cornwall and Man half tongue-in-cheek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonGod
    I would contest that. The whole idea was only a conjectural statement, however, and the bits about Brittanny, Cornwall and Man half tongue-in-cheek.
    King Malcolm might not get the full effect of the punch-line. BTW - I said TEND to have more in common because countries with high levels of Roman Catholicism in the modern age TEND to have similar humanitarian concerns and spiritual superstition. Other Religions may not have the same character as the RC church because they lack the hierarchical and totalitarian nature of the RC church leadership. I probably shouldnt have included ALL religions in my previous statement.
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    King Malcolm might not get the full effect of the punch-line. BTW - I said TEND to have more in common because countries with high levels of Roman Catholicism in the modern age TEND to have similar humanitarian concerns and spiritual superstition. Other Religions may not have the same character as the RC church because they lack the hierarchical and totalitarian nature of the RC church leadership. I probably shouldnt have included ALL religions in my previous statement.
    We'll have to ask him.

    I think that Catholicism would be a boundary needed to be trounced in order to form a prosperous, post-modern society. Does it really seem that far-fetched to you?

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    What punch line...

    There are two groups who are campaigning for that idea, NeonGod, the Celtic League and the Celtic Congress.
    I have to say, that I partly agree with both of you. The two types of Celts are different -- the Goidelic (Ireland, Isle of Man, bits of Scotland) and the Brythonic (Wales, Cornwall, Brittany). If they did join, however, I would assume the Celtic Church would be the sensible option. But there are few places which are "pure Celtic nations", probably only Ireland. Scotland is a mix of Celt, Angle, Saxon, Nordic and Pictish (whatever they may have been) The isle of Man is Celtic and Nordic. Because of these differences, TuffStuffMcGruff is probably right.
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    Not this old clap trap again?

    He added that it showed how much Scotland would have benefited from independence and oil
    This is absolutely typical of a nationalist isn't it? Its MINE, this oil, all MINE, you can't have it. The voice of the kid who took his football home from the playground turned into a political party. Its pathetic. Wee Scotland? Wee bloody minds, the SNP, that's a fact. Bunch of small town bigots with chips on their shoulders IMHO.

    If we discovered the worlds biggest diamond mine in Norfolk this same joker would be first in line holding his hand out for "fair shares for Scotland". They wouldn't be England's diamonds, you bet, they would be the UK's.

    Last time we did this I linked the pages on the Office for National Statistics website that show that Scotland receives FAR more money per capita than England, and pays less tax. I can't be bothered to do it again. They are there, just find them. I'm sure Mr Lying McBastard of the SNP is familiar with the figures, which is no doubt why he choses to try to make political capital out of something 30 years old.

    From an American perspective, the UK is an extremely bias union. Something should be shaken up so that all of the member "states" are treated equally.
    God help us. We pay the Scots more, we give them a Parliament, we let their MPs vote on things that ONLY AFFECT ENGLAND (and wales), they certainly don't seem to be lacking any national identity I can see, the Prime minister and Chancellor of the Exchequer are actually Scots, if this is extreme bias god knows what equality will look like.
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    The Speaker of the House of Commons and the Secretary of State for Defence and the Secretary of State for Transport are also all Scottish.

    It is silly that Mr Blair gave Scotland devolution, but didn't do anything about England. Although, if the ConservaTories get in and let only English MPs vote on matters which only affect England, then that will give the SNP fuel for their cause, saying that Scottish MPs are a second-class MP, and aren't allowed to vote on all the votes in parliament. In think it should be a case of devolution for all or no devolution. Mr Blair was too sly, knowing that he would have to keep Scottish MPs for his nice majority in the parliament.

    However, the English shouldn't complain, since we had been under the boot of English MPs for the past 290 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by English assassin
    Not this old clap trap again?

    This is absolutely typical of a nationalist isn't it? Its MINE, this oil, all MINE, you can't have it. The voice of the kid who took his football home from the playground turned into a political party. Its pathetic. Wee Scotland? Wee bloody minds, the SNP, that's a fact.
    Not minding my own business across the Channel whatsover, I agree with this.

    What if the Orkneys were to become indepent from Scotland in their turn? Wouldn't all of 'Scotland's' oil then suddenly turn out to be really theirs? Blimey, those few thousand shepherds could live like oil sheiks if we were to follow this line of reasoning.

    IMO, the Act of Union has benefited Scotland to no end for three centuries now, what with them having full access to all the wealth and priviliges that Britain's empire has brought with it...
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