can you control more than one 20 stack armies??

**jimmy** · 09-13-2005, 22:38

as i am unable to post it in the mods forum i will try here.

is there a way you can you control or is there a mod or script change that allows you to control a number of armies[over 20 units] instead of the AI taking over once you have reached your 20 unit limit.as an example you have three armies.

1/20 units

2/10 units

3 12 units

total 32 units why am i only allowed control of 20 when 22 automatically default to the AI??

it would be nice to have control of them personally. rather than them defaulting to the computer and it gets them all killed. i know the 20 unit stack limit was in MTW. are we not capable of controling more units/armies. and to me personally this would really up the challange.

**Deus ret.** · 09-13-2005, 23:25

If you had counted more carefully, you'd have seen that the AI also has a 20 unit limit. Upon viewing an AI army, the units are displayed in rows of nine each - that's why two "extra" units appear in the third row.

Apart from that, I can't help you, sorry....

**magnum** · 09-14-2005, 07:46

You can only control 20 units on a battle field at one time. If you uncheck AI control of the other units before the battle then they will wait off-screen until one of your 20 units is destroyed or routs off the map, at which time one unit will enter that map to replace it.

To the best of my knowledge all of that is hard coded.

**Garvanko** · 09-14-2005, 10:54

Nope.

But I try to have the AI control my re-inforcements in any case, particulalry on the field, by placing a General in the supporting army.

**Ciaran** · 09-14-2005, 11:37

A general as in family member? I´d strongly advise against that; AI-controlled, these guys have a way of getting themselves killed. A normal captain will do just fine, I´ve never seen any substantial influence that generals have.

**jimmy** · 09-14-2005, 14:51

Originally Posted by magnum

You can only control 20 units on a battle field at one time. If you uncheck AI control of the other units before the battle then they will wait off-screen until one of your 20 units is destroyed or routs off the map, at which time one unit will enter that map to replace it.

To the best of my knowledge all of that is hard coded.

thats the reply i didnt want well if its hardcoded it,s hardcoded.pity really as it would make for some really epic battles.

i wonder why it was hardcoded??

**Garvanko** · 09-14-2005, 18:02

Originally Posted by Ciaran

A general as in family member? I´d strongly advise against that; AI-controlled, these guys have a way of getting themselves killed. A normal captain will do just fine, I´ve never seen any substantial influence that generals have.

Its true that General's will normally have suicidal tendancies, but remember, they are reinforcements, and personally i'd rather my reinforcements arrived in a full stack controlled by an AI, rather than one-by-one under my control, as and when my units rout.

Nevertheless, A five star General or higher in a supporting army vastly improves the effectiveness of any reinforcements controlled by the AI.

**octavian** · 09-14-2005, 18:12

Originally Posted by Garvanko

and personally i'd rather my reinforcements arrived in a full stack controlled by an AI, rather than one-by-one under my control, as and when my units rout.

um, all you have to do is tick the little box beside your reenforcing army so that the AI controls the army and you're laughing, no need to risk a valuable family member.

i personally never use the AI to command my battles. and as i rarely have (or need) multiple armies with a total of more than 20 units in a given area, its not really an issue for me.

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**Garvanko** · 09-14-2005, 18:32

Originally Posted by octavian

um, all you have to do is tick the little box beside your reenforcing army so that the AI controls the army and you're laughing, no need to risk a valuable family member.

Oh.. never done that.

**Cheater** · 09-15-2005, 05:12

I don't control most of my battles directly, seeing that I fight over 4 (sometimes more!) battles every turn. Needless to say, it does get pretty boring and time consuming after a while, so I don't do it much.

But then again, I'm a cheater, if I was a fair player like you people I'd probably have more willpower to fight my battles personally to ensure success. But since both my empire AND the troops that fight for it are both modded to be extra powerful, there's not much the enemy can do for it, I'm afraid.

But anyway, in regards to more than 20 unit armies, I think that 20 units is pretty fine and dandy. I really can't precieve a need for much more than that... with an exception of instances that I have reinforcements ready. But then, I always use the auto resolve when I do that since it somehow makes me think that the AI will control the excess, but I could very well be wrong.

**Ciaran** · 09-15-2005, 10:21

Actually, I think fighting the battles manually is much more cheating than auto-resolve: natural intelligence versus artificial stupidity

And in my opinion twenty controllable units are enough to handle comfortably. The sixteen of MTW were a bit few, but twenty is fine. More, however, might get hard to keep track of. Well, telling the truth, if things really go south, even ten can be hard to overlook