Objectionable links

**Big_John** · 09-18-2005, 16:26

Originally Posted by Beirut

That's why we don't stomp on every tiny thing in The Frontroom.

Just swearing, religion and politics.

... and the sweet, sublime nude aspect of the beautiful women.

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 09-18-2005, 16:36

I must say the org is very hypocritical in some of its rules. As a parent I find a few cuss words used in an extremely humorous manner far less objectionable for children than entire threads telling them there is no god and that they are crazy to believe in one. Or threads where their told sex is fine anytime with anyone as long as you and the other person or persons agree it. Telling them being gay is a fine alternative lifestyle .Trying to claim that the org has a pg rating is lying to yourselves.

Video of Marines shooting a man?

Yes a video was posted here of Marines shooting a wounded Iraqi. It was posted to show how horrible Marines were. Yes you actually saw them shoot and kill him and then cheer the fact . But a funny clip from a movie that has a warning is objectionable. Hypocracy at best. I suggest the backroom is no place for kids then.

**Divinus Arma** · 09-19-2005, 08:41

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Yes a video was posted here of Marines shooting a wounded Iraqi. It was posted to show how horrible Marines were. Yes you actually saw them shoot and kill him and then cheer the fact . But a funny clip from a movie that has a warning is objectionable. Hypocracy at best. I suggest the backroom is no place for kids then.

This why we need a back back room. Stuff like this is real and going on constantly. What if I posted imagery from the New Orleans disatser with bodies floating in the water? It is real. It is terrible.

But we come to the Org united by our enthusiasm over one of the best franchises ever: Total War. Nobody comes to this site for the backroom FIRST. That is what makes the backroom so unique from other forums and websites. All of us at one time or anopther have sat for a few hours with STW, MTW, or RTW. We sought more info and happily stumbled across the Org. I myself am not a member to TW Center, Strat command, or any other forum because the poeple and the discussion here is honest, friendly, and we all share a common bond. Where else can a Senior Citizen, a Fifteen year old, Liberals, Conservatives, Military members, military haters, and people from all over the world come and share this type of productive environment.

I understand the frontroom policy and the policy through the typical forums. I visit them as much as the backroom, if not more. But sometimes, It's nice to have a place to talk about the real world. And the real world is dark, cruel, and violent.

So let's have a backbackroom. Knock on the door in the middle of the night and the guard moves aside the wooden slit, revealing squinting suspicious eyes. Mention the password and yee shall enter. It is a place for men.

uhmm... and women. that was for effect.

**TosaInu** · 09-19-2005, 10:02

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Yes a video was posted here of Marines shooting a wounded Iraqi. It was posted to show how horrible Marines were. Yes you actually saw them shoot and kill him and then cheer the fact . But a funny clip from a movie that has a warning is objectionable. Hypocracy at best. I suggest the backroom is no place for kids then.

Please allow me to point out, that the out takes topic was not in the Backroom.

I presume it's God in your context, not god.

In the past there was one OT forum (Tavern). I was never much of a visitor there, but it was a more friendly place (some naughty incidents though) than it is these days. Instead of beating it back into compatible shape (like we probably should have), we split it in two: Frontroom and Backroom. The Frontroom is for lemonade and alcohol free beer, Whisky is only served in the Backroom.

There have been several discussions about creating a 18+ boyz(R) lockerroom style forum, and I for one would be very interested to see which Hero(TM) starts crying first, but it's not going to happen.

I think it's unfair to blame us for not censoring civil disussions about ideas/filosophies/religions, while also blaming us for editing out swearing and flames.

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 09-20-2005, 02:23

Please allow me to point out, that the out takes topic was not in the Backroom

Indeed true and my mistake. Dioes that mean I can post them in the backroom? If not why was this threadmoved if it affects the backroom? Or why wasnt the origibnal merely moved to the backroom itself from the start?

Gawian let the mods do what they need to there are young impreshenable minds on this board

Agai I dont know about you but I dont want my children reading crap like theirs no god and christians are both nuts and akin to terrorists. That Christianity should be thrown out as a pagan practice and that sex is good for you. But a link with a warning that there is objectionable language there is out of line. I supppose a link to TWC would like wise be censored since people curse there all the time. Or any site that contains cursing or links to R rated movies anywhere.

I think it's unfair to blame us for not censoring civil disussions about ideas/filosophies/religions, while also blaming us for editing out swearing and flames.
I would remind you all that I never swear here and much as some of you may not believe I try to avoid flaming people. Cursing for cursing sake or to insult someone is deplorable and should have no place on these boards. But when used as humor and without being able to be seen unless you ignore a warning should be sufficient. Heck no Richard Pryor jokes on these boards. Its the intent of whats written not the words themselves that are important. Im not saying we should stop talikng about ideas/filosophies/religions but we should also not be hypocrites and only censor nudity and cursing all the while telling us that sex with anyone is fine as long as you not related or there is no god and if you believe it you an idiot. Which do you think most parents would find more objectionable? Well in Europe it may be different

**Beirut** · 09-20-2005, 03:03

If you're looking for regulatory perfection you aren't going to find it here.

Granted some of the rules seem like a mish-mash of conservatism and liberalism but that's reflection of both the membership and of the staff. And since the staff are volunteers from all walks of life, with different attitudes and changing abilities to devote their energies to this site, finding the level of continuity you seek might be less than realistic. But we're doing what we can.

One thing we are doing - though I know you might not appreciate the way we are doing it - is keeping the Frontroom safe. The babe thread is an indulgence to many of us, but the rules have been set and most people are following them nicely. Those who post porn or links to porn are warned hard and fast not to do it again. Recidivism is very low. As for the swearing, the zero tolerance rule is taking hold nicely and we have few problems.

To be painfully honest, the recent events involving yourself have been far and away the most vocal and troublesome. Nobody else except for one miscreant who is now permanently banned came close to raising the ruckus you did. So I'm of the opinion that while the rules themselves are far from perfect, it is only a very small minority who see them as a blight on their posting pleasures.

**Reverend Joe** · 09-20-2005, 03:21

Who got banned? Abokasee? Or that Centurion Officer guy? I still remember that one disturbing thread he posted about some sort of male sex club.

Actually, I probably wouldn't know them.

But, frankly, Gawain, I don't see any validity to your arguments. Just accept that this isn't going to happen. Thee are simply too many freaks and perverts, not to mention stupid people, to allow for objectionable links.

**Divinus Arma** · 09-20-2005, 04:53

Wasn't his account name "Horse Archer"? This was only a couple months ago. He tried opening new accounts after being banned too.

Originally Posted by Beirut

Nobody else except for one miscreant who is now permanently banned came close to raising the ruckus you did

Beirut, don't you think you are being a tad excessive? You are implying that Gawain might be permanently banned! Just because he disagrees with your statement?That's ridiculous. He came to the watchtower like he was supposed to when raising a complaint.

Originally Posted by The Guild

Watchtower
A forum where we can talk about the Org forums. It's your chance to influence Org's policy.

I think I will "attempt to influence the Org's policy" by asking that you take a chill pill. I've never seen anybody get so touchy moderating here as you do. It is discomforting.