EU yes or no?
EDIT(as panzer reguested.):Yes or No.I personally think that the EU is weakling because of its share size.We should uphold the trade agreements but there is no point of federal state of EU,because EU nations have too different cultures to begin with.I think that if Federal states should be created they should be created out of Nations that share the same culture like Northern countries.
Last edited by Kagemusha; 09-14-2005 at 23:03.
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I'll dance on the grave of EU
Common Unreflected Drinking Only Smartens
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The poll is somewhat hard to understand.
It says EU: Yes or No. But then you ask, should we disband the EU?
I say no to the EU and I say "yes", disband it.
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I will drink to that.Originally Posted by Sjakihata
I'll dance on the grave of EU
Panzer there is the initial question and then the explanation.Just read the first question and answer to it.
Last edited by Kagemusha; 09-14-2005 at 22:22.
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Re: EU yes or no?
The poll is somewhat hard to understand.
It says EU: Yes or No. But then you ask, should we disband the EU?
I say no to the EU and I say "yes", disband it.
Yes = keep EU and expand it
No = demolish EU
the way I read it
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I say disband, then start a new, less technocratic and more democratic union with countries really willing to cooperate.
Edit : I voted yes, but yes to disband. Silly me
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Pro EU and pretty happy with that fact. All those who want to do without it either miss the point, the facts or reality in a whole.
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No my friend, it is you who (a) miss reality or (b) want to play along the games of the oligarchic elite.
EU is no democracy, that's a fact. EU control, through directives etc, a lot of national laws. Laws that affect people. And the people have NO say, what so ever, in these laws. Is that fair? Hell no.
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As I said.. confusing poll..I say disband, then start a new, less technocratic and more democratic union with countries really willing to cooperate.
Edit : I voted yes, but yes to disband. Silly me
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Happy now?As I said.. confusing poll..
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No, Im most displeased about the lack of a space between "I" and "personally" in the first line. In fact, it disgusts me.Happy now?
Ipersonally
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Anything else that comes to your mind?
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What does it take to make you people happy? I mean, the man tried. Why do you want more?
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The whole structure of your paragraph needs to be revised. Im not pleased with your word choices at all. Have the draft in my PM box by tommorow, at the latest! Hrrrumph!Anything else that comes to your mind?
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Draft my....The whole structure of your paragraph needs to be revised. Im not pleased with your word choices at all. Have the draft in my PM box by tommorow, at the latest! Hrrrumph!
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Yes.
As in 'yes, gimme more EU'. As in 'yes, more peace, progress and prosperity please'.
14.000 rules on the curving of bananas may be a monstruosity, but it still beats 25 conflicting sets of 14.000 rules on the curving of bananas.
Edit: LOL, PJ.
Last edited by Louis VI the Fat; 09-14-2005 at 23:18.
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Draft his Fuedal Man-at-Arms?
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Bloody Yanks!
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Isnt it intresting that when you look at poll results,you see that the pro EU guys are from central Europe and No EU guys are from US(obvious),Britain and Scandinavia.Wonder why?
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Pro = JAG, Louis IV, Ronin.
Meneldil, like a democratic voter in Florida, was tricked into voting the exact opposite of what he intended to by the confusing polling system.
JAG is British. Ronin is Portugese - which I wouldn't call Central European.
Leaving yours truly as the sole central European supporter of the Franco-German 'axis of EUvil'.
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I'm for Europe myself: peace in Europe, trade benefits, political unity and so forth.
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Good one.Fat chance, brother Louis. Your country is situated below the garlic parallel, you guys aren't for real.Leaving yours truly as the sole central European supporter of the Franco-German 'axis of EUvil'.
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Here goes another fine conspiracy theory.Atleast there arent a single one patron from Norther countries that has voted pro EU.
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I voted yes, because there is much good that the EU could achieve, if heavily reformed that is. Currently EU is doing it's job poorly though and if there isn't a improvement soon you might as well scrap the whole thing.
And there goes your statement Kagemusha...
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It seems like everything i say today is false.Maybe i just ought to shut up.This is just one of those days.I voted yes, because there is much good that the EU could achieve, if heavily reformed that is. Currently EU is doing it's job poorly though and if there isn't a improvement soon you might as well scrap the whole thing.
And there goes your statement Kagemusha...
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As I said in another thread... I have mixed feelings....
I truly fear that the EU could become the next CCCP... I also have people here in Volensk *Which is in Asia* who feel that Europeans are nothing but troble...
But I would give anything to see Europe in a state of peace... But I do not like how manny nations are Scocialist...
So as I said before... I have mixed feelings...
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Yes to EU.. Really !. I mean in globally politic terms, EU is a need.. A peaceful polarity which is impossible to grow as a nuclear superpower, but powerful enough to draw a line when needed..
I absolutely don't want Turkey in EU, but let EU live..
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The EU is just another pathetic attempt to unsaid America as "undisputed champion of the wrold" and unfortuantly the EU countries have no chance of stopping us for 2 reasons
1. We are greedy greedy bastards
2. If anyone ever truly gets ahead of us the nukes will be used
So you silly euros can play house but we will continue to suck third wrold countries dry push around 2nd rate superpowers and keep giving China the notion they could actually compete with us
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The tone of your post would have been much clearer if the beer-drinking had been used as an intro.The EU is just another pathetic attempt to unsaid America as "undisputed champion of the wrold" and unfortuantly the EU countries have no chance of stopping us for 2 reasons
1. We are greedy greedy bastards
2. If anyone ever truly gets ahead of us the nukes will be used
So you silly euros can play house but we will continue to suck third wrold countries dry push around 2nd rate superpowers and keep giving China the notion they could actually compete with us
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I would love to reform the EU to make it looser and more about trade than political union, but everyone would have to admit that, as far as Europe is concerned the 2nd half of the 20th century was much better than the first half.
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