Should British Forces Pull out?

[Ice]

OK sorry. Well I think france should go in! And train the Insurgents. the war will be over in weeks!

Insurgent "Are you sure that's the right way to fire an rpg... I always thought it the projectile went away from you"

Frenchman "(major butchering of the spelling) soch la bloom, that's why we could never destroy a German Tank!"

[Zharakov]

Is there some sarcasm here?

No... Im serious... The Americans are the best in the world... Only the most stupid of nations would try to win a war with them...

The CCCP stood a chance... but they don't exist anymore do they? *Thank God*

[Strike For The South]

You cant pull out who would make all the tea ( sersiouly dont we might be able to swing tea but crumpets is just completly out of our league)

And the US Army is the best a couple points or in the words of the great max payne bullet time

1. The Iraqis dont fight they run into crowded plazas and blow themselves up thats not fighting IIRC the real army keeled over and died after about 3 minutes

2. America is fighting this war with one finger half of our guys are agisant it and if tou ask anyone here what they thought about today Iraq would be about 8 or 9 on the list If you really want to see a pissed off American get us to the point where food and oil stamps are handedout

[Lemur]

Should British Forces Pull out?

That depends on whether or not they want to make a baby. It's worth pointing out that "pulling out" isn't the best method of preventing unwanted pregnancies, anyway. I know the U.K. military is strapped for cash, but can't they issue their soldiers, um, how shall I put this ... ponchos for their soldiers' little soldiers? That's what most armies do ...

[PanzerJaeger]

You should finish what you start. No one held a gun to any British person's head and made them join in.

[King Henry V]

Except the decison was made by a bunch of corrupt, fat, lazy politicians in Westminster. They, fo cousre, would never dream of risking their necks by going to Iraq without as many bodyguars as there are soldiers in that God-forskane Hell-hole.

[Sjakihata]

For fear of the americans, I think the British should pull out right away. There's no telling when the next american bomber will eradicate a British platoon (or canadian for that matter).

So, out you go. You can come back when the americans learned to point a 'rpg' in the right direction.

[Ronin]

pull the soldiers out.....give guns and ammo to the politicians that made the dumb decision and send them out there.

I´d even pay PPV charges to watch that.

[Sjakihata]

pull the soldiers out.....give guns and ammo to the politicians that made the dumb decision and send them out there.

I´d even pay PPV charges to watch that.

What weapon do you think Blair would use? And which one do you think the danish Minister of State (anders fogh rasmussen) would use? and the spanish? The most exciting is, of course, Bush's choice! I doubt he'd opt for a six-shooter, though.

[Adrian II]

You should finish what you start. No one held a gun to any British person's head and made them join in.

Funny you should say that. In a sense, Mr Bush held a gun to everyone's head in 2001 when he declared that whoever is not with him is against him. I believe the main reason why Mr Blair decided to go along with the American invasion (even though he knew full well that the official motivation was fake) was to try and exert some moderating influence on the Americans and prevent them from becoming an all-out rogue state on the international scene.

I also believe he deeply regrets that decision because things haven't worked out as he foresaw. But that is educated conjecture, based upon testimony of people who worked closely with Mr Blair in the past three years.

What is important is that the decicion was regrettable and the Brits now have to make the best of a failed campaign. Basra is turning into a militant Shiite stronghold under their very hands. They have been feeding the Shiite tiger cubs for years and now they have grown big enough to swallow the Brits.

[PanzerJaeger]

Funny you should say that. In a sense, Mr Bush held a gun to everyone's head in 2001 when he declared that whoever is not with him is against him.

Actually, he was refering to nations that harbored or supported terrorists, such as Iraq. He did not make that statement about the Iraq war.

[King Ragnar]

You should finish what you start. No one held a gun to any British person's head and made them join in.

It was Blairs decision and im sure if you went around and asked british civilians normal people they would say we should have never gone there in the first place.

[PanzerJaeger]

It was Blairs decision and im sure if you went around and asked british civilians normal people they would say we should have never gone there in the first place.

Yet he is still the prime minister of your nation and his party is still in control of your government, no?

[King Ragnar]

Well it wasnt my decision to keep him in, some morons voted for him. But your right i suppose, just shows what a nation of idiots we can be at times.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

The us military could beat the UK's easily.....the only thing better about yours is the snipers.

Heck the USMC alone could beat all of Britains forces other than nuclear.

[Sjakihata]

I don't think so, you old marine :p

[Duke Malcolm]

No... Im serious... The Americans are the best in the world... Only the most stupid of nations would try to win a war with them...

The CCCP stood a chance... but they don't exist anymore do they? *Thank God*

Only by numbers, not by the individual soldier's skill. And Gawain, I think that Her Majesty's Armed Forces could take on the USMC...

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I don't think so, you old marine :p

It might be interesting to compare the orders of battle between the two. I have no doubt the Marines could deploy faster than the whole of the British military. Besides that I think we outnumber you.

[King Ragnar]

Isnt it a bit chilidish this whole our army could beat yours stuff, i mean who cares the USA and UK will never go to war yet.........

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Isnt it a bit chilidish this whole our army could beat yours stuff, i mean who cares the USA and UK will never go to war yet.........

Isnt it a bit childish of you to call us childish? Its an intersting topic and nothing more. There no doubt the US military could defeat any nation in open battle. Im trying to give you guys a chance and only sig the Marines on you.

PS there is no one I respect more than the British Military. A truly proffessional bunch.

[Don Corleone]

Well, the grudge match between the USMC and Her Majesties armed forces is fine, because we have people represented from both sides.

But you know, if I was French, I would have just about had it with everyone. I know we all think 'they know we're just kidding', but they probably don't. If I was French, I'd be getting banned right about now. If somebody calls you a coward constantly, but when you call them on it they say "you know I'm just kidding, can't you take a joke", you're going to get really pissed off. What's more, France has a glorious military history. The only thing that might actually allay their rage is the sheer foolishness of it. I may not like the games they're playing on the international scene right now, and I may take issue with people who refer to them as an 'ally' of the United States, but come on... enough is enough.

*Sidenote: Mon amis, please note, the majority of the Franco-bashing is coming from your cousins across the channel, not your step-children across the pond.

[Don Corleone]

Rant mode off. Now, on a lighter note, did anybody else read the title of this thread and have a Beevis & Butthead moment... "Heheheh, he said pullout... heheheheh". I was going to make some crack about "If they haven't brought protection with them, for the love of God, make sure to pull out". Sorry, sometimes certain expressions bring out the worst in me.

[Viking]

If they pull out and civil war errupts all their work and all the soldiers they lost would be for no purpose. I`d say stay until one can be sure that such a thing cannot happen.

[PanzerJaeger]

But you know, if I was French, I would have just about had it with everyone. I know we all think 'they know we're just kidding', but they probably don't. If I was French, I'd be getting banned right about now. If somebody calls you a coward constantly, but when you call them on it they say "you know I'm just kidding, can't you take a joke", you're going to get really pissed off. What's more, France has a glorious military history. The only thing that might actually allay their rage is the sheer foolishness of it. I may not like the games they're playing on the international scene right now, and I may take issue with people who refer to them as an 'ally' of the United States, but come on... enough is enough.

Oh come on, the US gets bashed constently and Britain has an entire thread about the crumbling of its society.

French people can and do deal out just as much as they get. You should hear what's said in the streets of France about America, much less Britain.

"I'd rather have a German division in front of me than a French division behind me." - Patton

^Now that is taken generally as a shot at France, but Im not sure if it wasnt an crack about the German military.

[Don Corleone]

Oh come on, the US gets bashed constently and Britain has an entire thread about the crumbling of its society.

French people can and do deal out just as much as they get. You should hear what's said in the streets of France about America, much less Britain.

And when people bash the US constantly, I call them on it. Of course humor here there is fine. But honestly, if all the time, you're hearing how cowardly everyone thinks you are, don't you think you'd get really sick of it?

I'm sure the French have a lot of nasty things to say in the local salon about America. But we're not talking about Joe's corner bar or Jean's corner salon. We're talking about a place we've all agreed to discuss issues in an at least somewhat civil fashion. Constantly referring to the French as cowards and pushovers doesn't quite fit that bill in my book. If we want them to show us some respect, we should begin by treating them the way we'd like them to treat us.

[Kagemusha]

It might be interesting to compare the orders of battle between the two. I have no doubt the Marines could deploy faster than the whole of the British military. Besides that I think we outnumber you.

What are you talking about Gawain?Deploy faster.How many ships does The marine Corps have,or are you thinking of swimming across the Atlantic to kick britains arse.Maybe British Navy will pitty you guys and pick you up from the ocean.

[Sjakihata]

What are you talking about Gawain?Deploy faster.How many ships does The marine Corps have,or are you thinking of swimming across the Atlantic to kick britains arse.Maybe British Navy will pitty you guys and pick you up from the ocean.

lol that made me laugh

seriously though, the USMC is the (or one of the) worlds quickest forces to deploy. That's their purpose. To go in and try to fix things, before the cavalry arrive. They do use ships - and quite big ones as well. And jets. They are a little army in themselves, I think that's the point. But be sure, Gawain WILL let you know

[Kagemusha]

lol that made me laugh

seriously though, the USMC is the (or one of the) worlds quickest forces to deploy. That's their purpose. To go in and try to fix things, before the cavalry arrive. They do use ships - and quite big ones as well. And jets. They are a little army in themselves, I think that's the point. But be sure, Gawain WILL let you know

I know that they have the best reaction time in the world.But its the US NAVY that moves them around.Also their fighters are launched from the US NAVY carriers.That is why i cracked that joke.If Gawain says that they can beat maybe the worlds second best Army with only Marines,i would like to know how?

[Adrian II]

But we're not talking about Joe's corner bar or Jean's corner salon. We're talking about a place we've all agreed to discuss issues in an at least somewhat civil fashion. Constantly referring to the French as cowards and pushovers doesn't quite fit that bill in my book.

No Frenchmen in saloons will ever read this forum. We have only a handful of active French members here who are without exception intelligent, reasonable, witty and polite. It is a shame to treat them this way.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I know that they have the best reaction time in the world.But its the US NAVY that moves them around.Also their fighters are launched from the US NAVY carriers.That is why i cracked that joke.If Gawain says that they can beat maybe the worlds second best Army with only Marines,i would like to know how?

You forget that the Marines have their own airwing. We dont need the navy to move us around. We also have Marine airbases. In my 4 years in the Marine airwing neither I nor anyone in any of my squadrons nor any aircraft from those squadrons served on a carrier.