A question

**Steppe Merc** · 09-24-2005, 18:30

Originally Posted by khelvan

I promised to you long ago that there would be an Open Beta. This open beta is what you have been waiting for, for so long. You'll either get an open beta with me as the head PR guy and the integrator, or you will get a full release with someone else in that role, because I will not break my word to you.

I have always said that the mod will be released as soon as it is playable, and I have read no overwhelming opinion that leads me to believe that there is any reason to go against this promise. I intend to keep it.

And we love Khelvan, so we'd never get rid of him.

**Ianofsmeg16** · 09-24-2005, 18:37

nomination for "emotional Speech"?....

I promised to you long ago that there would be an Open Beta. This open beta is what you have been waiting for, for so long. You'll either get an open beta with me as the head PR guy and the integrator, or you will get a full release with someone else in that role, because I will not break my word to you.

**jerby** · 09-24-2005, 18:48

sounds a bit 'george bus'h-like' ...

**Reverend Joe** · 09-24-2005, 20:35

Wait... you mean... Khelvan...

**edyzmedieval** · 09-24-2005, 21:47

Originally Posted by Steppe Merc

And we love Khelvan, so we'd never get rid of him.

Everybody loves Khelvan.

**Ianofsmeg16** · 09-24-2005, 22:30

Everybody loves Khelvan.

*Breaks into tune*
Oh We ALL LOVE KHELVAN...
All over this land
*Breaks out of tune*

**Dunhill** · 09-24-2005, 23:18

This level of the TW community is a bit more "mature" and I think we are happy to wait a little longer for a product that has less bugs.

I'd suggest the team continue closed testing, open up the website, then once the website is settled and the game is 95% playable, release.

It's fine to have some bugs, and we'll be able to help you after release. However, you don't want a CTD buglist that runs for pages.

Good luck with whatever decision you make, and keep up the good work.

Cheers,

**Ludens** · 09-24-2005, 23:55

I second Divinus Arma. You determine what is best. I can wait.

**O_Stratigos** · 09-25-2005, 01:26

I also agree with this. Whatever the EB teams desides to do, for whatever reasons.

"In EB we trust"

O_Stratigos

**Modestus** · 09-25-2005, 03:48

Hey it now sounds to me that’s there is an internal debate going on within EB and somehow you feel compromised, don’t worry about it we are not stupid people, I don’t mind EB being delayed you have stated you promise a beta mod, fare enough I for one do not want you to commit a noble deed on principle, noble deeds generally get no one anywhere and certainly those based on principle! It is only a game, I would much prefer that a decision was made internally by EB and not open to debate but since you have introduced a note of division and if what you imagine as a possible hypotically problem arises then I would suggest you have no alternative but to go along with the team.

But having reappraised what you initially said and recognising that nothing fundamental is a problem “Let loose the dogs of war”

Edit:Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;

**Meneldil** · 09-25-2005, 10:58

Originally Posted by Dunhill

This level of the TW community is a bit more "mature" and I think we are happy to wait a little longer for a product that has less bugs.

Err, there's no question of maturity or not. If EB release an open beta, it will likely mean that bugs will be found and fixed faster, that game balancing will probably also be achieved faster, and hence, that the final version will be released earlier.
I'm not trying to make fun of RTR, but most RTR version are bugged as hell, and no one complain. Knowing the EB team, I doubt they would let us dl a totally unbalanced version that CTD when you conquer a 50th province.