To all you sober people

[Reverend Joe]

Edited: this was a bad idea.

[Strike For The South]

lets slow down a tad

[Reverend Joe]

Take his advice, if you're a moron.

It's safer to go buy some pot and smoke it, if you're that eager to try it out.

Well, this way it's free. And it is not unhealthy. And it is legal.

Admittedly, though I would rather just smoke a good joint.

[AntiochusIII]

So basically you describe the "high" feeling as the same thing you get when you meditate. Hmm...

So you poor hippie fools waste your lungs smoking crack while you should've been practicing the Oriental art of controlling and silencing your mind.

[Reverend Joe]

So basically you describe the "high" feeling as the same thing you get when you meditate. Hmm...

So you poor hippie fools waste your lungs smoking crack while you should've been practicing the Oriental art of controlling and silencing your mind.

It's not crack, you jerk. It's hash, or pot. And yes, I find that offensive.

Anyway, what I have described is still not nearly as fun as really being high, not in the least because you can move around and do things while you are high. Your mental state is also dramatically altered, whereas this is just feeling part of the physical aspect.

[Divinus Arma]

I notice that meatwad has been more vocal with his support of illegal narcotic use on this forum lately.

And one day, after you are 30 and realize that you still live with your parents, you may stop th pot and get a job. But by then it will be too late. Because you wasted your twenties on Marijuana.

And I get to talk all the **** I want because I smoked it since I was 12 and stopped at 18. So nyah. I even smoked when I had bronchitis. I did other horrible horrible things that I refuse to mention here.

Another great thing about pot. Go out in public while you are stoned. Sooner or later you will feel like everyone "knows" that you are stoned. Boy that's fun. Then you freak out.


Or do LSD and have a bad trip where you find yourself in HELL. Not flame hell, but "God does not exist" hell. All meaning suddenly evaporates. Even time is pointless. Why eat? Why breathe? But you are trapped and you must continue to exist despite realizing you have no reason to. Nothing is entertaining. Everything is nothing. I would rather die a violent death, thank you very much.

Great job MEATHEAD. Promote drug use in a forum full of teens. frickin evil hippy.

[Reverend Joe]

frickin evil hippy.

Yeah... haven't you noticed my title?

Look, the reason I have been vocal is because I have been running into some rather unpleasant, strongly anti-drug people. The problem is, the stuff can be tolerable in moderation. When you go overboard with it, yes, it is awful. Personally, I am very strict about not using marijuana more than once every two weeks or so. The other problem is that people tend to act more mature on this forum than most others, so I forget how many young people there are around. That is a mistake on my part, and I apologise.

One thing, though- please don't post here when you are drunk again. It is embarrasing. (I am sure you have already taken this into account.)

[Soulforged]

Yeah... haven't you noticed my title?

Look, the reason I have been vocal is because I have been running into some rather unpleasant, strongly anti-drug people. The problem is, the stuff can be tolerable in moderation. When you go overboard with it, yes, it is awful. Personally, I am very strict about not using marijuana more than once every two weeks or so. The other problem is that people tend to act more mature on this forum than most others, so I forget how many young people there are around. That is a mistake on my part, and I apologise.

One thing, though- please don't post here when you are drunk again. It is embarrasing. (I am sure you have already taken this into account.)

YEAH!!! Also it's your problem...jesus...

[rasoforos]

That description sounded like a boring day at work...

...and most of the replies sound like they come from drunk or stoned people...

...I dont think this thread is very good for the young(er) people around here and it gets nowhere...

[Reverend Joe]

All your little demonstation would show people is what if feels like when your brain doesn't get enough oxygen.

Seriously? Oh. Oops.

I'm just gonna erase my initial post and warn people not to do this.

[Divinus Arma]

Yeah... haven't you noticed my title?

One thing, though- please don't post here when you are drunk again. It is embarrasing. (I am sure you have already taken this into account.)

hey Hey HEY HEY!!!!

Don't attack me because I drink. THAT, my evil hippy friend, is LEGAL.

Look, I wasn't trying to attack you, seriously. If you thought I was, I apologize for poor communciation.

I think a discussion on drug use is a good idea. I think the approach is what needs to be delicate. This is becasue so many people are poorly informed.

Personally, I think pot is way less harmful than alcohol and I think it is insanity not to legalize it.

A discussion on this is great. After all dude, I am friggin cop in the Corps and I smoked the crap. Its out there. Its widely used. So let's be adult about the topic and discuss it that way.

As for kids and teens, who cares? We just had a discussion on KILLING. I don't think this is nearly as bad.

I'm with you on this one meatwad. As for all other drugs, including psychadelics, I am on the other side. The consequences are far too costly to society.

The comment on my drunkenness was just cold, man.

[Tribesman]

YEAH!!! Also it's your problem...jesus...
Stoned or Drunk ? What would Jesus do ?
Our Lord and Saviour one day decided that moral guidlines must
be laid down on the issue of intoxicants .
As he had already formed an opinion on alcohol .....
"when people are really drunk at a wedding , you can serve them water instead of wine and they don't even notice"....alcohol = bad
So to save his time he sent his disciples off to the four corners of the globe (it was a flat globe back then) to bring back samples of all the different narcotics they could find .
One by one the disciples returned , coming before Jesus they laid their finds on the table and our Lord would ask "what have you bought us , and they answered , Matthew bought some opium from the east , Peter bought pyote , Mark bought marajuana , Thomas was already having doubts about whether he should really have tried some of those mushrooms on the way ....and so the arrived one by one ...finally the last disciple turned up and Jesus spake "and what have you bought us Judas ? "
And Judas replied "I have bought the police , you are all busted"

[Sjakihata]

Stoned or Drunk ? What would Jesus do ?

He turned water into wine, didnt he?

[Beirut]

Gentlemen,

Let us not dwelve into personal insults. (Granted I did not see the original post. Will someone please PM me the context of the first post.)

Also, let us tread lightly when mocking religious figures. There are people who find great offence in such things.

Thanks.

[rasoforos]

The original post was describing of a way to allegedly simulating the sensation you get from smoking pot. It didnt involve anything dangerous...being a crossbreed between meditating and being really bored ( sit down and breathe slowly and dont move for 10 minutes more or less...)

[Reverend Joe]

Turns out it was partly oxygen deprivation, so I removed it. I didn't want anyone to die.

Also, Divinius, yes, I misunderstood you. To be perfectly frank, I amy joke about hallucinogens, etc., but I certainly would not condone their use. I, myself, do not use anything but marijuana. Hell, I don't even use hash, or that stuff you scrape out of your pipe (I forgot what it is called, but I don't use it because the people at my college use glass bowls... and I kinda wonder what they're really smoking... ). Also, the drunkenness comment was out of some concern- I was telling you to be careful, because that's a good way to get kicked off the Org. That's why I never post here when I am high.

Okay- shake hands?

Edit: Rasoforos- what the hell is a corporate hippie? That doesn't make sense... how can you be laid back and be an active member of a corporation at the same time?

[Soulforged]

Gentlemen,

Let us not dwelve into personal insults. (Granted I did not see the original post. Will someone please PM me the context of the first post.)

Also, let us tread lightly when mocking religious figures. There are people who find great offence in such things.

Thanks.

I didn't meant any of that, I just posted "jesus", because I don't like the word "jeez".

[Beirut]

I didn't meant any of that, I just posted "jesus", because I don't like the word "jeez".

I was talking about the guy who had the Apostles bringing drugs to Jesus.

[The Stranger]

BEIRUT WARN THEM....they're talking bout CRACK....and the rules are no talking BOUT WAREZ, CD-KEYS AND CRACK(S)

[The Stranger]

i got warned for selling CRACK and where is my friggin sig

[BDC]

Alcohol and caffeine are all you need.

Bring on the Red Bull and vodka. And hordes of pretty girls.

[Reverend Joe]

Alcohol and caffeine are all you need.

Bring on the Red Bull and vodka. And hordes of pretty girls.

Red Bull and vodka? Eech. I can understand whiskey, tequila, and spiced rum- hell, even spiced vodka is good. But Red Bull and vodka is grotesque.

[BDC]

Red Bull and vodka? Eech. I can understand whiskey, tequila, and spiced rum- hell, even spiced vodka is good. But Red Bull and vodka is grotesque.

But it makes you drunk and wakes you up at the same time!

It's handy for people like me who have to order a coffee at the bar otherwise... Damn addictions!

[_Martyr_]

Drink is a far more serious hazard than any form of weed. The things I have seen otherwise calm and intelligent people do while they were absolutely piss drunk are unmentionable on this board. In the short term, too much drink turns people into violent, uncontrolable, aggressive, overconfident and generally dangerous lunatics, who can do a lot of damage to themselves and those around them. Too much weed on the otherhand makes people dizzy, nautious, lethargic and tired. In the long run, too much drink will cause severe mental and pyhsical severe problems such as liver damage, chemical addiction, destruction of brain cells, depression, loss of attention span and potentially death. Too much weed in the long will cause mental problems like depression, paranoia, social disconection, anxiety, loss of brain cells, loss of attention span and can bring out scitsophrenia in people who have a natural predisposition to it.

Weed in small amounts generally causes the user to become calm, more reflective, hungry and well... stoned! Increase the dose and these effects become more extreme to the point where the user will probably just fall asleep listening to pink floyd or giggling like a 5 year old. Alcohol in small doses makes people more confident chatty, outgoing and aggressive. Increase the dosage and put it into a typical club/pub/crowd setting and you are looking at mass scale fights started over people bumping into each other, vandalism, glass bottles being thrown, sexual assaults, karaoke, people collapsing from alcohol poisoning, vomiting, ambulances and a really bad hangover. Weed's negative affects are mostly limited to the user or abuser themself, alcohol will destroy the abuser and all/everything around him. Now, guess which drug is legal...!

I would certainly not recomend anyone to take anything in excess. Believe me, I have first hand experience of people who have taken both of these drugs and indeed many others to a dangerous and extremely destructive level. However, approaches such as "reefer madness" achieve absolutely nothing, dead accurate information is what is needed, not half truths, hear-say and downright lies. I personally enjoy the odd joint, and drink a few beers socially on a regular enough basis. Everyone is different and has to make their own experience. Each person will have their own threshold after which that next pint or that one more hit of the bong is a bad idea.

[Geoffrey S]

A good post indeed, particularly the final paragraph. It pretty much sums up how I too feel about weed, alcohol, and the various sentiments about the two.

[BDC]

dizzy, nautious, lethargic and tired

Alcohol does that to me...

[Tribesman]

Just in case anyone was offended by my post which may seem to belittle the miracle of water into wine I apologise .
The rest of the post was also unneccasary as of course each of the substances I mentioned are naturally occuring , therefore part of Gods creation , so of course Jesus would have known all about them and wouldn't have to send his disciples out to get samples .

[rasoforos]

Edit: Rasoforos- what the hell is a corporate hippie? That doesn't make sense... how can you be laid back and be an active member of a corporation at the same time?

A corporate Hippie is a person who can combine being a pacifist, anti-capital punishment, anti-imperialist , human rights enthusiast, who supports that 3rd world debt should be written off etc etc etc...

...but at the same time is working in the City for a large insurance broker ( my left wing side call use corporate pigs... ) and enjoys every minute of it...

...which shows that not all is black and white in life, and also that you can have a left wing political ideology and a right wing economic one.

Doesnt it make your day to know that people like this exist? ...It does when you make an insurance claim thats for sure.

[Soulforged]

Just in case anyone was offended by my post which may seem to belittle the miracle of water into wine I apologise .
The rest of the post was also unneccasary as of course each of the substances I mentioned are naturally occuring , therefore part of Gods creation , so of course Jesus would have known all about them and wouldn't have to send his disciples out to get samples .

[Reverend Joe]

A corporate Hippie is a person who can combine being a pacifist, anti-capital punishment, anti-imperialist , human rights enthusiast, who supports that 3rd world debt should be written off etc etc etc...

...but at the same time is working in the City for a large insurance broker ( my left wing side call use corporate pigs... ) and enjoys every minute of it...

You're not a hippie... you're a yippie! Stinkin' damn yippie!

Martyr...