What was the last thing you learned...yes RIGHT NOW

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 09-25-2005, 03:14

Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

I like you SFTS. You are a good dude.

Did you read my trash about joining the Corps early? When you are 17, you can go to boot camp in the summer before your Senior year (as a reservist). You will be a United States Marine for your senior year. And can wear your dress blues at prom. If that isn't badass, I don't know what is.

Then when you graduate, you will be active duty.

Semper!

anyway to become an OFFICER that way? If so, I'm doing it

If not...w00t USAF ROTC

**Divinus Arma** · 09-25-2005, 03:25

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

anyway to become an OFFICER that way? If so, I'm doing it

If not...w00t USAF ROTC

Nope. But I personally recommend being a troop before leading troops.

In my opinion, that is the problem with most officers. They get all high and mighty and don't know dick about what really goes on.

The best officers I have ever had were all enlisted first. I would follow them to my death with total confidence and absolute loyalty. These other guys... well, they're a bunch of pompous, bloviated scyophants kissing up for promotion.

You want to lead? Great! But why? If you want to be an officer of men, a respected leader, and recieve true loyalty, then you must be a troop first. There is no other way. And when you have the loyalty of your men... when you look into your subordinate's eyes and know that he doesn't just trust you, but he loves you like an older brother, then you will never look at yourself the same. And you will be ready to assume the responsibility and authority that can carry grown men willingly to their deaths.

But if you want to be an officer just because you want to be the guy in charge, then your men will despise you. And when the chips are down, you will be revealed as the coward you are.

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 09-25-2005, 04:01

Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

Nope. But I personally recommend being a troop before leading troops.

In my opinion, that is the problem with most officers. They get all high and mighty and don't know dick about what really goes on.

The best officers I have ever had were all enlisted first. I would follow them to my death with total confidence and absolute loyalty. These other guys... well, they're a bunch of pompous, bloviated scyophants kissing up for promotion.

You want to lead? Great! But why? If you want to be an officer of men, a respected leader, and recieve true loyalty, then you must be a troop first. There is no other way. And when you have the loyalty of your men... when you look into your subordinate's eyes and know that he doesn't just trust you, but he loves you like an older brother, then you will never look at yourself the same. And you will be ready to assume the responsibility and authority that can carry grown men willingly to their deaths.

But if you want to be an officer just because you want to be the guy in charge, then your men will despise you. And when the chips are down, you will be revealed as the coward you are.

I want to be an active officer, i.e. a lt. that sees action with the troops. Or a tank commander, I love armor.

**Divinus Arma** · 09-25-2005, 06:20

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

I want to be an active officer, i.e. a lt. that sees action with the troops. Or a tank commander, I love armor.

Well, you won't see action in the air force. Since when did the Air Force have tanks?

Look. Clear and simple choice. Life of pain with glory and honor. or life of ease with no glory and no honor. One or the other.

It is a hard choice. But you have to look deep in your heart and see who you are. Then you will know the answer. If the hard road was meant for you, then it will call to you. It will pull on your heart with a siren song. If you feel the pull, then you have no choice. You have to go the hard road. Otherwise, you will always hate yourself and wonder "what could have been" if only you had the balls.

I know you have some health problems. Only you know if you are malingering or not. Plenty of guys say they hurt, but really they are afraid. I am not saying you are one way or the other.

I am saying you should not cheat yourself out of your own dream. You really can do it!

But be enlisted first.