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    Well, there are many exceptions to that,
    True , and one of the exceptions is the clause in the interim constitution which call the the return of any detained coilition soldiers to their own forces .
    But I doubt the interim constitution would stand up to much legally if it is challenged . Considering that many of the "Iraqi" framers of that document are now facing criminal charges arrising from their term of "appointment" , as are some of their judicial team .

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    If we start fighting a government that WE instituted, Iraq will compltely go to crap.

    We will lose all legtimicay and have to leave immediatley.

    Then Iraq will suffer a horrible civil war. The Government will totally collapse and their will be no law, just regional strongmen.

    The Kurds will declare independence in the North, drawing Turkey in to brutally squash it before Turkish Kurds attempt to secede.

    The Sunnis will attempt to reassert their former authority by waging a genocidal war against the Shiites. Iran, mostly shiite, will get involved because they no longer have a reason not to. They still have scars from the Iraq/Iran war and will happily destroy a weakened Sunni power base.

    Then the terrorists will develop new tactics in this messy environment and export this to other middle east countries in order to destabilize the region further. The Saudi Kingdom will be threatened by internal jihadists supported by foriegn terrorists.

    Meanwhile, oil prices will go through the roof. Western economies will take a huge hit and inflation will soar.

    With the world in chaos, China will seize the opportunity to invade Taiwan. The United States will be forced by treaty to support Taiwan and threaten military action against China. China will give us the finger and we will simultaneously invade Taiwan to liberate it and boycott all Chinese products.

    Western economies will spiral further down due to the lack of cheap goods as terrorists export violence to the rest of Europe. China, Iran, and Pakistan will declare a nuclear alliance. India will seek help from the U.S.

    The U.S. and Europe will be unable to fight the middle and far east at the same time and institue conscription. A global conflict will ensue as the U.S. and Europe invade China and Iran.

    Russia will be forced to make a decision, join Chinese Alliance or join Europe.

    Urban battlefield tactics will be completely unnegotiable without civilan Casulaites. The west will be forced into true attrition warfare and purposely kill civilians.

    Palestinains will dance in the streets. Liberals will scream that the U.S. is Evil. Bush will go down in history as the man who started WW3 with a preemptive invasion into a country without WMD or foriegn terrorists.


    I am really looking foward to this crap.
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    I am really looking foward to this crap.
    Oi !!!!! Behave yourself Divinus , are you after my job of "cynical old git" ?

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    No offence to you Yankee's out there...and remember this aint being political now..

    Why the hell don't we get out there?
    We've done our job, overstayed our welcome and now are paying the price...let's pull out now and watch Divinus Arma's profecy come true...

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    I'd like to see them come and get the soldiers
    They don't have to .
    Unlike the Americans , the British troops can be bought before the British courts , the european courts and the ICC , if their is any validity in the charges levelled by the Iraqis .
    One of the claims being made by the Iraqi judiciary is that the troops were not British . I wonder if there is any truth in that and what effect it woud have on any outcome .

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    ]No offence to you Yankee's out there...and remember this aint being political now..

    Why the hell don't we get out there?
    We've done our job, overstayed our welcome and now are paying the price...let's pull out now and watch Divinus Arma's profecy come true...


    You aren't going to pull out because Great Britian has a spine, that's why.



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    There's having a spine and there's just being bloody minded, though. I can't see what good the troops are doing. If we don't leave, it can only be on the basis that we broke it so we have to try to mend it. Though god knows how

    Unlike the Americans , the British troops can be bought before the British courts , the european courts and the ICC , if their is any validity in the charges levelled by the Iraqis .
    This is of course an argument in favour of going and getting them back from the hands of the iraqi authorities, oh no, they weren't in the hands of the authorities were they, they had been handed over to the militia. Anyway, there is in theory no question the troops will not escape justice if they had in fact done wrong.

    Exactly. Last I looked, if you go somewhere, you are subject to those laws
    I only know about the UK and the old FDR but there were visiting forces agreements in those cases. I would expect that is common if not universal for any country stationing large numbers of troops abroad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    If we start fighting a government that WE instituted, Iraq will compltely go to crap.

    We will lose all legtimicay and have to leave immediatley.

    Then Iraq will suffer a horrible civil war. The Government will totally collapse and their will be no law, just regional strongmen.

    The Kurds will declare independence in the North, drawing Turkey in to brutally squash it before Turkish Kurds attempt to secede.

    The Sunnis will attempt to reassert their former authority by waging a genocidal war against the Shiites. Iran, mostly shiite, will get involved because they no longer have a reason not to. They still have scars from the Iraq/Iran war and will happily destroy a weakened Sunni power base.

    Then the terrorists will develop new tactics in this messy environment and export this to other middle east countries in order to destabilize the region further. The Saudi Kingdom will be threatened by internal jihadists supported by foriegn terrorists.

    Meanwhile, oil prices will go through the roof. Western economies will take a huge hit and inflation will soar.

    With the world in chaos, China will seize the opportunity to invade Taiwan. The United States will be forced by treaty to support Taiwan and threaten military action against China. China will give us the finger and we will simultaneously invade Taiwan to liberate it and boycott all Chinese products.

    Western economies will spiral further down due to the lack of cheap goods as terrorists export violence to the rest of Europe. China, Iran, and Pakistan will declare a nuclear alliance. India will seek help from the U.S.

    The U.S. and Europe will be unable to fight the middle and far east at the same time and institue conscription. A global conflict will ensue as the U.S. and Europe invade China and Iran.

    Russia will be forced to make a decision, join Chinese Alliance or join Europe.

    Urban battlefield tactics will be completely unnegotiable without civilan Casulaites. The west will be forced into true attrition warfare and purposely kill civilians.

    Palestinains will dance in the streets. Liberals will scream that the U.S. is Evil. Bush will go down in history as the man who started WW3 with a preemptive invasion into a country without WMD or foriegn terrorists.


    I am really looking foward to this crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    If we start fighting a government that WE instituted, Iraq will compltely go to crap.

    We will lose all legtimicay and have to leave immediatley.

    Then Iraq will suffer a horrible civil war. The Government will totally collapse and their will be no law, just regional strongmen.

    The Kurds will declare independence in the North, drawing Turkey in to brutally squash it before Turkish Kurds attempt to secede.

    The Sunnis will attempt to reassert their former authority by waging a genocidal war against the Shiites. Iran, mostly shiite, will get involved because they no longer have a reason not to. They still have scars from the Iraq/Iran war and will happily destroy a weakened Sunni power base.

    Then the terrorists will develop new tactics in this messy environment and export this to other middle east countries in order to destabilize the region further. The Saudi Kingdom will be threatened by internal jihadists supported by foriegn terrorists.

    Meanwhile, oil prices will go through the roof. Western economies will take a huge hit and inflation will soar.

    With the world in chaos, China will seize the opportunity to invade Taiwan. The United States will be forced by treaty to support Taiwan and threaten military action against China. China will give us the finger and we will simultaneously invade Taiwan to liberate it and boycott all Chinese products.

    Western economies will spiral further down due to the lack of cheap goods as terrorists export violence to the rest of Europe. China, Iran, and Pakistan will declare a nuclear alliance. India will seek help from the U.S.

    The U.S. and Europe will be unable to fight the middle and far east at the same time and institue conscription. A global conflict will ensue as the U.S. and Europe invade China and Iran.

    Russia will be forced to make a decision, join Chinese Alliance or join Europe.

    Urban battlefield tactics will be completely unnegotiable without civilan Casulaites. The west will be forced into true attrition warfare and purposely kill civilians.

    Palestinains will dance in the streets. Liberals will scream that the U.S. is Evil. Bush will go down in history as the man who started WW3 with a preemptive invasion into a country without WMD or foriegn terrorists.


    I am really looking foward to this crap.

    *does the "I told you so dance"*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    If we start fighting a government that WE instituted, Iraq will compltely go to crap.

    We will lose all legtimicay and have to leave immediatley.

    Then Iraq will suffer a horrible civil war. The Government will totally collapse and their will be no law, just regional strongmen.

    The Kurds will declare independence in the North, drawing Turkey in to brutally squash it before Turkish Kurds attempt to secede.

    The Sunnis will attempt to reassert their former authority by waging a genocidal war against the Shiites. Iran, mostly shiite, will get involved because they no longer have a reason not to. They still have scars from the Iraq/Iran war and will happily destroy a weakened Sunni power base.

    Then the terrorists will develop new tactics in this messy environment and export this to other middle east countries in order to destabilize the region further. The Saudi Kingdom will be threatened by internal jihadists supported by foriegn terrorists.

    Meanwhile, oil prices will go through the roof. Western economies will take a huge hit and inflation will soar.

    With the world in chaos, China will seize the opportunity to invade Taiwan. The United States will be forced by treaty to support Taiwan and threaten military action against China. China will give us the finger and we will simultaneously invade Taiwan to liberate it and boycott all Chinese products.

    Western economies will spiral further down due to the lack of cheap goods as terrorists export violence to the rest of Europe. China, Iran, and Pakistan will declare a nuclear alliance. India will seek help from the U.S.

    The U.S. and Europe will be unable to fight the middle and far east at the same time and institue conscription. A global conflict will ensue as the U.S. and Europe invade China and Iran.

    Russia will be forced to make a decision, join Chinese Alliance or join Europe.

    Urban battlefield tactics will be completely unnegotiable without civilan Casulaites. The west will be forced into true attrition warfare and purposely kill civilians.

    Palestinains will dance in the streets. Liberals will scream that the U.S. is Evil. Bush will go down in history as the man who started WW3 with a preemptive invasion into a country without WMD or foriegn terrorists.


    I am really looking foward to this crap.
    Ohhh... Can I make another?

    US pulls out through the more and more obnoxious Iran, prompting another Iraq situation.

    Iraq spirals into anarchy and warlord (militia) warfare.

    US, gets tired of this continual problem and retires though Iraq towards Syria. Ripped the militias a new one and pulling the Syrian government to the ground, to the great rejoice of Israel and Lebanon.

    While at it, Bush says "what the heck" and takes adrive through Palestine to help Israel.

    Result: Total mayhem in the Middel East, as the powervacuum is infinate, and Turkey is tripping over its own toes to secure its borders while beating up the Kurds. The Saudi regime flees heads and necks due to the impossible situation (chaos everywhere and terrorists attacks on the increase).

    Oil halts completely. Russia and Norway becomes the new oilpowers, and Russia experiences a surge in wealth, prompting Putin to establish a benevolent dictatorships while putting some pressure on Lukashenko in Belorussia.

    Pakistan shakes apart as it is rocked by the chaos around it. India takes the advantage and captures the rest of Kashmir.

    China, hit extremely hard by the lack of oil (no reserves of their own to speak of), looks to Russia to fuel their economy. Russia on the other hand sells to the West for more money, leaving China in the dust. China can't have this and invades to take control of the oil.

    Interesting situation for the West but when Russian begins to fail in its defence the West finally jump in to help Putin. China does not like this and screams that any Chinese soldier fired upon by westerners would result in an Alpha-strike of WMDs.

    Result? WWIV with sticks and stones.
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