Roman Naval Officer Stele Found

**Casmin** · 09-25-2005, 06:46

First stele found of a naval officer. Great find!

http://ansa.it/main/notizie/awnplus/...0_1325320.html

**Mouzafphaerre** · 09-25-2005, 07:37

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Thanks!

I've taken the liberty of reposting it here with due credit.
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**Kraxis** · 09-25-2005, 11:58

Quite nice!!!

And a most inteersting image. But possibly it was stylized bit, the thing of armour and the sea... Often a bad combination, but perhaps this will lead to more info?

**Kagemusha** · 09-25-2005, 12:13

Kraxis.Do you mean the sinking factor or the rusting factor,or maybe both?

**Casmin** · 09-25-2005, 20:39

Thanks Mouzafphaerre! BTW, cool pirate site. There's a discussion going on about it at RAT (Roman Army Talk) http://www.romanarmy.nl/rat/viewtopic.php?t=4828

I first ran into the stele on Archaeologica News. Here's the link for those of you who aren't familiar with it. http://www.archaeologica.org/NewsPage.htm It's the best site I've seen for new finds and research in the field.

**Mouzafphaerre** · 09-25-2005, 21:21

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Thanks for the Archeologica link, I've bookmarked it. I'm sure AdrianII will be very glad if you post the link in the sticky thread up here too.

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**Kraxis** · 09-26-2005, 02:47

Originally Posted by kagemusha

Kraxis.Do you mean the sinking factor or the rusting factor,or maybe both?

Primarely the first... As you can be dragged down by bronze and leather as well.

**Papewaio** · 09-26-2005, 04:57

Does it matter if you float when you have been killed because you had no armour?

If the risk of dying without armour is higher then with wearing armour, then armour makes sense.

**Kraxis** · 09-26-2005, 22:16

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Does it matter if you float when you have been killed because you had no armour?

If the risk of dying without armour is higher then with wearing armour, then armour makes sense.

Well, since he was the captain of a piratehunter it is perhaps more sensible to carry armour. But on the big battleships (heh), the chances of actually sinking was a lot higher.

**Papewaio** · 09-28-2005, 02:35

Didn't most of the thinking happen in rough seas not combat?

I suppose in combat only those on the upper deck or the intial wave

would require armour... a bit like having the first line in a phalanx more heavily armoured.

**conon394** · 09-28-2005, 04:25

Kraxis

And a most inteersting image. But possibly it was stylized bit, the thing of armour and the sea...

Wearing armor seems fairly normal. Aeschylus, in ‘The Persians’ has the Athenian marines wearing armor. He was there at Salamis and presumably much if not most of the men in his audience.

**Kraxis** · 09-28-2005, 21:49

Originally Posted by conon394

Kraxis

Wearing armor seems fairly normal. Aeschylus, in ‘The Persians’ has the Athenian marines wearing armor. He was there at Salamis and presumably much if not most of the men in his audience.

The Spartans on the other hand and their hired marines did not wear armour. Possibly because their fleets got sunk so often.

But a lot of ships were sunk in both bad weather and in combat. Fleetcombat that is. Just look at the figures for the 1st Punic War, the numbers are staggering.