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    Jillian & Allison's Daddy Senior Member Don Corleone's Avatar
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    Default What to do with child molesters?

    I'm moving this over from the Fascist thread (sorry about the diversion, Beirut). Anyway, there's two schools of thought on this (with all sorts of variants within the two camps).

    One side says the offender is a victim themself, of a terrible disease, and deserves therapy and treatment. Just as we shouldn't punish somebody for catching cancer, this school of thought says the perpetrator should be treated, not punished. Among other things, they point to the fact that most molesters were themselves molested in their own childhood.

    The other camp points to the high recivitism rate, even when the offender has received the best available care. The number of reoffending paedophiles is a hard number to judge, as they are certainly not going to volunteer the information. There is also the tricky question of what concerns a re-offense. In any case, estimates run as high as 80%, it's one of the highest recivitism rate crimes there is. In light of this, this camp advocates terrible punishments for the perpetrators, in an effort to discourage them (or prevent them). This is where you hear things along the lines of execution, castration, extended prison sentances, etc. One of the justifications for this camp believing the perpetrator is responsible for their actions is that they agree most perpetrators were themselves victimized, they point to the fact that the overwhelmingly number of sexual abuse victims DO NOT grow up to become offenders themselves. In other words, while victimization might be a flag, it is certainly not correlated enough to be a 'cause' in the sense of removing responsibility.

    Now, I've recently come to a place where I've decided that my Christian faith cannot square with the death penalty. The public whipping sounded really good, and not just from a vengance standpoint. Singapore absolutely swears by their system (of caning). In most criminology studies, the reason deterrants don't work isn't because the potential criminal isn't afraid of the punishment if he knew he was going to receive it, he has worked out the odds and considers the likelihood of being punished so low, it's worth the risk. I believe that if paedophiles knew they were going to be publicly whipped (or even in private) and for minor offenses you were forced to watch a whipping, the predators would take different actions.

    I'd really like to hear from qualified professionals, such as A. Saturnus (but all are welcome to share their views) to discuss what those in the rehabilitation camp propose doing about the high recitivism rates of paedophiles. As it currently stands, even with the best of treatments, 4 out of 5 of these guys are going to come out of prison and reoffend. Is that the price we as a society have to pay?
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    Simple . Send them all to Jags home for rehabilitaion. Where has the darlin boy been by the way?
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    lol

    I would castrate them, then 10 years in gaol, then brand the word "PAEDO" somewhere on them, and then let it be.
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    Castrate them, then lock them in a cell with one bed for 24h with 6 foot 9, 250 pound convict called "Pooches".
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    lock them up and throw away the key....make sure the prison population is well aware of the subject´s crime in order to assure a "warm" welcome.

    no death penalty.....but a suicide option should be presented at any time that the subject asked for it.
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    Castrate them
    What if it was a woman?


    We had one in our road only 3 houses away from mine in a big old house that is used as flats, nobody knew about it until we read it in a local newspaper.

    And ironically we also have a man who got an MBE for running a youth club for a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Simple . Send them all to Jags home for rehabilitaion. Where has the darlin boy been by the way?
    LOL, I was about to post the exact same thing!!! Beat me to it!!!
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    What to do with child molesters?

    Oh , that didn't actually work did it .

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    Therapy or whatever if that will actually change things. If not, prison I guess. Either way don't let them near kids at all.

    Still, no point in letting someone who could actually work (just not near vulnerable people) rot in prison.

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    Default Re: What to do with child molesters?

    yesdachi, I'm not sure why he turned himself in either. It seemed like he was not a suspect. Whatcom County could do with less sex offenders.


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    Sexuality does not define a person, but it cannot be changed within a person. Bluntly, you like what you like. If a person acts on an attraction that is illegal they should be punished and put in a position where they cannot do it again.

    However, we should be careful not to hate people who have sexually deviant thoughts. A man that is attracted to 8 year old girls is no different than a man who likes other men. Both of them cannot help what they are attracted to, and both of them could be perfectly great people on and intellectual and emotional level.

    If you're lucky, when you start to feel your own sexuality you will feel attracted so someone of the opposite sex that is around your same age. If not, then thats your cross to bear the rest of your life.

    Some people are just unlucky enough to be born with attractions that simply are not able to be fulfilled without hurting another person.. like pedophiles. They are forced to live a life of celabacy or learn to enjoy more normalized sexual behavior.

    We should never hate or wish death on people that are pedophiles, homosexuals, or any type of sexual deviant. They cannot help it. Society is right to punish and villify those who act on their selfish deviations at the cost of others.

    Child molestors should be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone
    I'd really like to hear from qualified professionals...
    Well, I'm out!

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    A hot topic. I understand the emotions, but keep it clean and civil.
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