When will CA annocunce the next TW game?

[The_Doctor]

Early next year?

E3?

[A.Saturnus]

That´s pointless speculation. If I remember correctly, Rome was announced before VI got out. But this time there´s another game in the making so I guess the successor of Rome will have a greater distance to BI than Rome had to VI.

[Mongoose]

Do you mean "Spartan:Total warrior"? AFAIK, it's being made by another team...

[PseRamesses]

Early next year?
E3?

Hopefully an announce in spring -06 with a release in the autum. But the most plausible would be 2007 if they relly want to knock this game back up to no1 again and take it seriously.
Based on history: STW fall? 2001, MTW spring? 2003, RTW fall 2004 if I remember correctly so it seems the devs needs some +1 1/2 years between games.
The main prob IMO is what era will it cover? A guess would be somewhere between 1500-1800 ad. Personally I´d prefer a bronze age game somewhere around 1500 bc or so with empires and a huge amount of city states and/ or factions.

[edyzmedieval]

A TW game won't be the same if they make from 1500 to 1800.
Many mods tried to do this. All of them failed completely.

A Bronze Age one would be good. I personally would like with Babylon.

[TB666]

A TW game won't be the same if they make from 1500 to 1800.
Many mods tried to do this. All of them failed completely.

No it wouldn't.
Look at the Lordz team.
Their mod is very popular(for MTW) and what they have done so far with RTW is amazing.
So CA will have no problem.

[The_Doctor]

err, guys can keep this away from what you want the next TW game to be. We have had too many of those.

[A.Saturnus]

Do you mean "Spartan:Total warrior"? AFAIK, it's being made by another team...

Yes, but that still means a diversion of resources.

[JeromeGrasdyke]

Alternatively you could look at Total Warrior as a resource generator for the PC Total War games, since the PC market is smaller than the console one

[CBR]

CA has also AFAIK hired more people the last couple of years so I dont see Spartan as something that really sucks resources out of the Total War series.


CBR

[Puzz3D]

Release dates:

STW - June 2000
MI - Sept 2001
MTW - Aug 2002
VI - May 2003
RTW - Sept 2004
BI - Sept 2005

In a recent interview, MikeB did not discount the possibility that the next Total War game in the series could be a fantasy game.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

They have the Spartan project in the pipeline...

As to another, I suspect it will depend on sales of BI and the continuing TW series sales. If they slump, its time to jump shift into another niche.

Seamus

[Spino]

I expect there will be an official annoucement on the next TW game before year's end. I also wouldn't be surprised if CA released two or three teaser screenshots to the press to give everyone some filler for side panel articles in those typically thick holiday issues, something to remind the public of Sega's recent foray into the strategy game genre.

If we're lucky CA will release another teaser movie like they did with Rome a few months after it was annouced.

[The_Doctor]

I wonder why they don't make rugby game any more?

[ghostcamel]

Alternatively you could look at Total Warrior as a resource generator for the PC Total War games, since the PC market is smaller than the console one

Exactly.

I never really got why people were so anti-Spartan Warrior when it was first announced. If you guys make money you can continue to make games, maybe even a sequal to your current PC juggernuat RTW.

The big thing is to have the PC experience and the console one not bleed into each other, dilluting each. Other than that it looks win/win to me. Listen to the fans and you should ;) do fine.

[econ21]

Release dates:

STW - June 2000
MI - Sept 2001
MTW - Aug 2002
VI - May 2003
RTW - Sept 2004
BI - Sept 2005

That's very tantalising information. It suggests we're looking at late 2006 for the next TW game. In which case, shouldn't there be an announcement soon? It seemed like RTW was in preparation for ages - IIRC, it was delayed about a year to make it a bigger project.

I guess it depends partly if they use something very like the current RTW engine (kind of STW=>MTW). If so, they could produce something quickly. If they want to make a leap comparable to MTW=>RTW, it could be a lot longer.

In a recent interview, MikeB did not discount the possibility that the next Total War game in the series could be a fantasy game.

Ugh. I'd probably buy it, but reluctantly. TWs market here at the Org seems to be history buffs/wargamers, but no doubt we're in a minority amongst the full market.

[edyzmedieval]

Fantasy game?! Ughhhh.

I'd probably buy it, but very reluctant, just as Simon.
I dislike all fantasy games. I dislike everything related to fantasy and SF.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

I'd buy it immediately if it was...

MOD FRIENDLY!

[The_Doctor]

It depends on what fanasty story. If it something they made themselves it would be bad and like a lot of other fanasty games. If it Warhammer, or something would be quite good as there is a rich story-line. It was sci-fi, like Battletech:Total War (mmmm, Madcats) it would be great, space battles, giant mechs and the neo-feudalism element would fit in nicely.

If we get Sonic:Total War I think would cry.

[Kraxis]

Fantasy is not so bad.

People wouldn't have to worry about the game being historical or not, so they would be much happier in all.

More seriously the various stuff that often get put into fantasy games could be a huge boost to any modders. We are talking about converting magic to some sort of artillery or something, and odd creatures to soemthing else. The expanded universe of abilities and stuff would be good to modders I take it.

[Beelzebub]

either a fantasy total war or medieval total war 2 (with increased scope, europe & asia).

[BobTheTerrible]

(if) It was sci-fi, like Battletech:Total War (mmmm, Madcats) it would be great, space battles, giant mechs and the neo-feudalism element would fit in nicely.

I would kill for that game. Well maybe not kill, but you get the point.

[Daveybaby]

I never really got why people were so anti-Spartan Warrior when it was first announced.

Some of us remember what happened to the X-Com series...

[KSEG]

Fantasy game?! Ughhhh.

I dislike everything related to fantasy and SF.

That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo unfortunate......

[KSEG]

Fantasy is not so bad.

People wouldn't have to worry about the game being historical or not, so they would be much happier in all.

If its based on something that allready exists, there will allways be a group of people complaining something like "OMG the eqipment of Rohirrim cavalry is all wrong! how can they do this!"

[Sin Qua Non]

I would really love to see CA try their hand at an American Civil War game, especially with the RTW engine. I can imagine all of the possibilities with different rifles, cannons, sharpshooters, generals, formations, railroad movement and seizure, conscription headaches, popular opinion ratings, seiges & investments, huge flanking battles, winter encampments, the farmland terrain of the 19th century U.S., covered in villages, creeks, sunken roads, fencelines and stone walls.... ohh yeah...

But I can also totally understand why they wouldn't do ACW. It's not really a "Total War" situation like STW, MTW & RTW. CA has a global following, and I'm honestly not sure how interested the rest of the world would be with an American Civil War game. Also, such a game would have many subtleties that may not translate into a TW game for a broad audience.

Barring that, I would also love to see the RTW battle engine in a game like Europa Universalis 2. Just the loads of independent cities and nations coupled with the diplomacy heavy styles of EU2 would make a mind-blowing game.

But enough rambling. I say they are going to announce something by the next quarter, even if it's a little teaser.

[hellenes]

Alternatively you could look at Total Warrior as a resource generator for the PC Total War games, since the PC market is smaller than the console one

But why you should bother with a UNPROFITABLE market instaed of focusing on the PROFITABLE???

Hellenes

[Captain Fishpants]

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In a recent interview, MikeB did not discount the possibility that the next Total War game in the series could be a fantasy game.

Actually, I've been quite careful not to give any hints about the next games (plural), which is why I didn't immediately deny the possibility of a fantasy-based title. I'm now not confirming the possibility of a fantasy-based title, nor the possibility of any other subject either, except to say that slowly and surely, plans are being drawn up, reviewed, mocked, redrawn and generally considered.

I don't think anyone in the larger TW community is going to be disappointed over the next few years. There's some cool stuff to come, people!

But why you should bother with a UNPROFITABLE market instaed of focusing on the PROFITABLE???

Both markets are worthwhile and interesting. And variety adds a certain spice to the life of a developer - we don't want to be one-trick ponies, after all.

[hellenes]

Both markets are worthwhile and interesting. And variety adds a certain spice to the life of a developer - we don't want to be one-trick ponies, after all.

Well thats a nice statement...
What I would suggest is that after reading this article http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr..._id=1001054517 it would be wise to CA/Sega to shift their focus on the MP part of the game (a mp campaign?) thus "convincing" the nice pc games' downloaders to get the original in orther to enjoy the game (warcraft series-DUMP BORING REPETITIVE POINTLESS singleplayer ENTERTAINING ENJOYABLE CHALLENGING multiplayer)...

Hellenes

[ChaosLord]

You really can't listen to their estimates on what piracy costs them. They treat any download as someone who would have bought the game at full price and other such nonsense. Really its the same as its always been. Good games sell well, while bad games/extreme rehashes don't. Just like bad movies not selling, they want to blame it all on piracy.

If you don't believe me, look at primarily singleplayer games that have sold well like Morrowind/Civ3/Mafia/etc..(more recent games don't come to mind at the moment, unless you want to count the TW series as primarily singleplayer too). Also, Warcraft1-2-3/Starcraft and even Dawn of War all have enjoyable singleplayer, not just multiplayer. Now i'm not against a mp campaign, i'd love one. It just bugged me you were using that other stuff as an excuse for one.

That said, I don't really mind what the next TW is so long as it isn't Napoleonic/ACW, I really don't like those themes. I can deal with older historical themes/sci-fi/fantasy(I too, would kill for a Battletech: Total War). The main thing thats important for me isn't the theme though, but the gameplay. Thankfully CA can do that well, even if the AI suffers at times. :P