Labour Conference

**Tribesman** · 09-28-2005, 18:31

Have they turned into totallitarian thugs ?
An 82 year old party member is forcibly expelled from conference for calling Jack Straw a liar over Iraq (I guess the truth hurts) .
Then someone who objects to the ejection is also removed .
As the 82 year old is then held under anti terrorist legislation can anyone explain how calling a liar a liar has anything to do with terrorism ?

Silly old bugger , he should have stayed in Nazi Germany and got all his persecution over with decades ago instead of running off to a free country like Britain .

**Don Corleone** · 09-28-2005, 18:33

Just out of curiosity, Tribesman, aren't you a citizen of ROI?

**Tribesman** · 09-28-2005, 19:16

Yes , but that doen't mean that I cannot criticise other countries governments .
I would start more topics criticising my government , but ...
(a) I don't think there is enough room on this forum for quite that many posts .
(b) I think all of the other Irish posters would be of exactly the same opinion as far as our banana Republic goes , so it wouldn't create much debate .

**Meneldil** · 09-28-2005, 19:19

Out of topic, but how is Ireland a banana Republic ?

**Don Corleone** · 09-28-2005, 19:22

You misunderstand me. Of course you have a right to criticize how Britain's political parties run their show. As far as I know, the Backroom is a free enviornment and any citizen of one country can criticize the policies of any other. Lord knows, we Americans have plenty to say about the way other countries run their affairs (something I wish we could restrain ourselves on at times).

I didn't mean it that way at all. I was just trying to keep up on where you're from, as you seem to know more about politics in Britain than the ROI (or at least, we don't hear much from you about things at the Dail). I was wondering if you were an expat.

**Tribesman** · 09-28-2005, 19:51

Out of topic, but how is Ireland a banana Republic ?
Meneldil ; because of the endemic corruption at all levels .
As one businessman put it , at one of the never ending yet completely unachieving tribunals into corruption , "the government make the Mafia look like a bunch of monks"
Bob Geldof wrote a very telling song about it in the late 70's , and is still very vocal on the subject , it's one of the reasons why he doesn't live here .

I didn't mean it that way at all. I was just trying to keep up on where you're from, as you seem to know more about politics in Britain than the ROI (or at least, we don't hear much from you about things at the Dail). I was wondering if you were an expat.
Well at work I read one Irish newspaper and two British ones , that is if the Irish one has even been delivered by the time its tea break .
The British TV news is on before and after the Irish TV news so I watch both .
I worked for many years in Britain , as did just about everyone of my age or older , and will probably work there again before I head to the States or Oz .

Anyway , I might have to start a thread about the Rossport 5 .
It might get a response , all the interesting topics are included "eminent domain , corruption , oil , big business , civil rights"

**Don Corleone** · 09-28-2005, 19:57

It just seems to me that whenever I'm over visiting Ireland, there's a scandal of one sort or another. Last fall, when i was there for 2 weeks, they wouldn't shut up about the Aer Lingus privitization scandal. That's all I meant.

It seems to be a fascinating place in terms of internal political machinations.

**Adrian II** · 09-28-2005, 20:06

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Meneldil; because of the endemic corruption at all levels. As one businessman put it, at one of the never ending yet completely unachieving tribunals into corruption, "the government make the Mafia look like a bunch of monks".

So how does the ROI compare to the Labour Party? Or does Labour belong in the Fascism thread these days?