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    Jillian & Allison's Daddy Senior Member Don Corleone's Avatar
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    Default The 'Old Gray Lady' is dead and rotting in the corner

    Frequently, when I'm on one of my soapboxes, you'll hear me rail against the New York Times, and how I think it ranks up there with the Enquirer in terms of journalistic integrity. People think this is because it has an editorial slant to the Left. This is not true. I regularly read the Washington Post, the Atlantic Monthly and the New Republic, all of which have a decidedly left editorial slant. My issues with the NY Times stem from issues like the Jason Blair scandal, and all the dozens of other 'oops' moments they've had in the past 15 years. Here's another one. Even a broken clock 'SHOULD' be right twice a day... The Times published an article claiming that Supreme Court nominee John Roberts authored a controversial unsigned memo on libel. As it turns out, he didn't. In printing a retraction, the NY Times, yet again, refused to apologize or offer any of the correlating evidence their editors used to confirm the author's story.

    I've said it before, there are really two independent variables in journalism: editorial leaning and actual accuracy. I DO think it's possible for a publication to be partisan and maintain their journalistic integrity. Both the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal are highly respectable in terms of the accuracy of their content (although both are fairly biased, one to the left, one to the right).

    So, the next time you hear me moaning about the NY Times, it's not because it endorses Democratic positions. It's because I never know whether they're making a story up as they go or not.
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    The New York Times is a very innacurate source for real news. If you're a leftist looking for the latest propaganda, its a gold mine, but its not good for much else...

    From now on everytime I see that stupid commercial asking me - living in Tennessee - if I want to subscribe to the NYTimes, im going to put a dollar in a jar and give it to the Republican party before the next election. Id rather give my money away than recieve such trash for it.

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    Slightly off-topic, but could someone post what are considered 'left', 'right' and moderate US papers? It's something I've been wondering about for a while, since I don't get any of the mentioned papers and don't read their articles frequently it would allow me to form a better image of American reporting.
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    Left: New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Miami Herald, Boston Globe (Far, far left) -> San Jose Mercury News

    Moderate: Chicago Sun, USA Today, Philadephia Inquirer, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Kansas City Star

    Right: Charlotte Observer, Houston Chronicle, NY Post, Washington Times, Wall Street Journal

    All but the Wall Street journal can be found here
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    Cheers!
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