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    Okay, I have a couple of questions to Myrddraal or General Sun.
    General Sun just posted that the mod for MP campaign will be release soon but I have a questions regarding to that. I'm not asking about the game Myrddraal is going to set up right now for testing or something but I'm referring to the downloadable one.
    1) Will the final version (Downloadable one) allow us to pick only 2 factions as humans and others as AI?? I just want to play against my brother and I know for the testing one that Myrddraal is doing right now needs all the factions to be humans so I'm just curious about that.
    2) To play MP campaign with someone will I need 2 Rome Total War CD's?? Like I said we (My brother and I) have 2 computers in my dorm (University) with separate ethernet line but we only have one CD.
    3) This is kind of similar to question #2 but will this MP campaign mod allow us to play as LAN? So actually if this is "Yes" than I believe my #2 question should be "Yes" as well.
    Thanks guys!

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    Insanity perhaps is inevitable Member shifty157's Avatar
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    People dont seem to be understanding how exactly this works. Correct me if im wrong but the players do not all play at the same time. The first player starts the game on his own, plays his turn, saves the game, and then emails the save game file to the next player who plays his turn and sends it to the next player. That way 17 people dont have to sit online for hours but only need to play through their turn for 20 or so minutes at their own leisure. Of course it could potentially take days to get through one turn as you have to wait for 16 other people to get around to playing their turn but i dont think the turnaround rate will be that bad. And itll also give you time to formulate your strategies and get some diplomacy done as well as allow you to have several games going at once. I personally cant wait for this to be released officially although i think that myrrdraal will have to create something so that players can choose which factions are player factions and which are AI factions so that any number of people can play.

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    shifty has the essence of it. The actual mechanics are slightly more complicated, but most of it is handled by the script.

    It should be possible to adapt the script to include AI players, but I'm slightly concerned that the AI may make deals with your faction without you having any choice.... I guess a way around that would be to take out diplomats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrddraal
    shifty has the essence of it. The actual mechanics are slightly more complicated, but most of it is handled by the script.

    It should be possible to adapt the script to include AI players, but I'm slightly concerned that the AI may make deals with your faction without you having any choice.... I guess a way around that would be to take out diplomats
    Can the real life arrangements be imported in the game?ie I agree to pay a 300d tribute to the seleucid leader in exchange of their alliance through the chat/thread can this agreement be imported in the game?

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    That sort of thing would work, as long as the AI isn't involved. Myrddraal, if you want I'd be willing to write up a set of rules for diplomacy among players once I've got some spare time; basically a list of agreements players can make and how to make them using a combination of e-mails/forums/in-game systems (diplomats).
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    eh...it isnt too hard to kick the senate out of the game. you can have the 3 roman factions as long as you dont have the senate. but what i'm worried about is that there are 3 roman factions...but then again agreements can be made that they wont attack each other headon early...wich i would like

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger
    wich i would like
    I bet you would. Anything to save yourself from getting pounded on all sides...

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    To Hellenes, I would imagine that people might be trading real life money for alliances, :P That would actually make things interesting.

    For a true MP campaign, we would need to make all the factions equal in terms of strength and ability. IE, make a new mod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Sun
    For a true MP campaign, we would need to make all the factions equal in terms of strength and ability. IE, make a new mod.
    Well not so much. Differing faction strengths provide a nice playing field for players of varying ability by giving weak players the handicap of a stronger faction. It also brings about more diversity making each faction that much more different in strategy and style than the factions around it. Ultimately i guess it just comes down to the preferences of who youre playing with.

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    The Romans obviously have the advantage in this. And Egypt, those factions get the best income, which I think will be the most important thing in this campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Sun
    To Hellenes, I would imagine that people might be trading real life money for alliances, :P That would actually make things interesting.

    For a true MP campaign, we would need to make all the factions equal in terms of strength and ability. IE, make a new mod.
    I didnt mean that (otherwise we had to break in to a museum to get some denarii )!!!
    As far as the equality goes I suggest that the three idiotic Roman satrapies/kingdoms (they ARE hereditary kingdoms) must be replaced with one ROMAN faction like all the rest of them.
    Also I would suggest a minor mod Hellenizing the dump 12 years old's Holywood mummies aka making "Egypt" a Ptolemaic kingdom.
    Toghether with a income equaliser (in some extent and some with troop upkeep) it will make the MP campaign an enjoyable expereince to everybody.

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    How about the basic premise gets tested first? Whether it works in an acceptable way is most important right now, all this business about which mods should be used or various balancing issues is currently completely irrelevant at the moment.
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