RTW MP Campaign - The game has begun!

[hellenes]

shifty has the essence of it. The actual mechanics are slightly more complicated, but most of it is handled by the script.

It should be possible to adapt the script to include AI players, but I'm slightly concerned that the AI may make deals with your faction without you having any choice.... I guess a way around that would be to take out diplomats

Can the real life arrangements be imported in the game?ie I agree to pay a 300d tribute to the seleucid leader in exchange of their alliance through the chat/thread can this agreement be imported in the game?

Hellenes

[Geoffrey S]

That sort of thing would work, as long as the AI isn't involved. Myrddraal, if you want I'd be willing to write up a set of rules for diplomacy among players once I've got some spare time; basically a list of agreements players can make and how to make them using a combination of e-mails/forums/in-game systems (diplomats).

[The Stranger]

eh...it isnt too hard to kick the senate out of the game. you can have the 3 roman factions as long as you dont have the senate. but what i'm worried about is that there are 3 roman factions...but then again agreements can be made that they wont attack each other headon early...wich i would like

[Craterus]

wich i would like

I bet you would. Anything to save yourself from getting pounded on all sides...

HINT HINT GAUL and OTHER ROMANS! Smash him immediately!!

[Lord Winter]

I bet you would. Anything to save yourself from getting pounded on all sides...

HINT HINT GAUL and OTHER ROMANS! Smash him immediately!!

I could connivently forget greece and their Asia Minor holdings if they attacked the Romans.(might finance a portion of there campaign if they did this for the right price: maps, conquered province, help in my wars ect.)

[The Stranger]

hooold it...dont get to cocky in here, first i want to know whos who...destroyer...would you care to update the faction list

[General_Sun]

To Hellenes, I would imagine that people might be trading real life money for alliances, :P That would actually make things interesting.

For a true MP campaign, we would need to make all the factions equal in terms of strength and ability. IE, make a new mod.

[shifty157]

For a true MP campaign, we would need to make all the factions equal in terms of strength and ability. IE, make a new mod.

Well not so much. Differing faction strengths provide a nice playing field for players of varying ability by giving weak players the handicap of a stronger faction. It also brings about more diversity making each faction that much more different in strategy and style than the factions around it. Ultimately i guess it just comes down to the preferences of who youre playing with.

[Craterus]

The Romans obviously have the advantage in this. And Egypt, those factions get the best income, which I think will be the most important thing in this campaign.

[General_Sun]

It's very important to give some kind of income equitity to the map, the Nile region, Greece, and any other huge money makers. On the flip side, give Germania, Numidia, etc better income.

I don't care how you good you think you are, but Germania CANNOT survive pass turn four, and Egypt will cream everything in the middle East.

[shifty157]

The Romans obviously have the advantage in this. And Egypt, those factions get the best income, which I think will be the most important thing in this campaign.

Your statement is very true. However I propose to you that they will not dominate the game. Everyone knows that these are the strongest factions. Its no secret. But i dont care how strong a faction is, it can still be overcome by the combined strength of the weaker factions around it. Im saying that the weaker factions will join together to bring down a common enemy. Its all a question of diplomacy. Can the weak factions overcome their differences and ambitions to overcome the strong or can the strong divide and conquer. The roman factions as well are not allied. They should be very wary of eachother knowing that eventually they will have to turn on a faction equally as strong as them. If i were a roman faction id consider ignoring outward expansion in favor of eliminating the other roman factions and claiming italy as a very good strategy. One that will have huge payoffs later in the game when i wouldnt have to face them in their much stronger form. The romans start out rather bite-sized even to eachother. Egypt however is a bigger problem as its only neighbors are the seleucids and numidia or in other words just the seleucids. Egypt has plenty of room for expansion, the means to do it, and doesnt need to worry about all of its borders. Yes egypt will be difficult to bring down but not impossible. Especially if Rome and egypt were to go head to head. The question would become who of the two has more allies. Rome has a large advantage over egypt in that egypt's prime homelands are much more accessable. Roman expansion creates a buffer zone of conquered land between its homeland and its enemies. Egypt doesnt have this. I have exploited this weakness many times in the singleplayer campaign by sending an invasion force straight to egypt's homelands rather than go the long hard way through its conquered territory.

I forget what my original point. Regardless im sure you get the idea.

[hellenes]

To Hellenes, I would imagine that people might be trading real life money for alliances, :P That would actually make things interesting.

For a true MP campaign, we would need to make all the factions equal in terms of strength and ability. IE, make a new mod.

I didnt mean that (otherwise we had to break in to a museum to get some denarii )!!!
As far as the equality goes I suggest that the three idiotic Roman satrapies/kingdoms (they ARE hereditary kingdoms) must be replaced with one ROMAN faction like all the rest of them.
Also I would suggest a minor mod Hellenizing the dump 12 years old's Holywood mummies aka making "Egypt" a Ptolemaic kingdom.
Toghether with a income equaliser (in some extent and some with troop upkeep) it will make the MP campaign an enjoyable expereince to everybody.

Hellenes

[Geoffrey S]

How about the basic premise gets tested first? Whether it works in an acceptable way is most important right now, all this business about which mods should be used or various balancing issues is currently completely irrelevant at the moment.

[The Stranger]

Rome Must Not Be Replaced With One Faction>>>only The Senate Must Be Dumped...i Dont Really Care How Egypt Looks, Just Fix Ironschest Axemen.

Since The Senate Is Gone, Romans Arent Allied An Can Fight Each Other, See No Problem

[General_Sun]

Well these things are still to be worked out. But priorities should probably be making the germans and the Numinidians survivable pass turn 10.

[The Stranger]

eh you should also worry bout the scythians...they arent exactly rich either