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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwill
    why does it matter if there are 3 roman factions if they are enemies then it will not be overpowerful also it is much simpler to leave them where they are , its not like the greek cities need the extra land they would get.
    Because its going to end up a parody of historical wargaming. Will we lose any UNIQUE faction? Nope we just lose the unessessary clone fiction and the green blue guys. There is NO senate NO need to be challenged at end game YOU can be challenge throught the campaign since you will compete with ones that have same IQ as you not 1000 times lower (like SP "AI").
    Well the RTR MP Light MOD will be ready soon and then everyone can judge whether it creates a BALANCED and sensible game.

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    I'd have thought three Roman factions getting orders from the senate could be fun in multiplayer, particularly once its time for a civil war; just think, other players could actually attempt to cash in on the situation unlike the AI in the regular game. It would also add a new dimension to the competition between the three playable Roman factions.

    Anyway, as Myddraal said the emphasis should be on getting the system working. If people want to have an historically accurate mod or any number of other options, there's sure to be adaptions of the more popular existing mods for the multiplayer campaign. Right now the focus should be on testing the game for bugs and playability, and worrying about balance and personal preferences later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
    I'd have thought three Roman factions getting orders from the senate could be fun in multiplayer, particularly once its time for a civil war; just think, other players could actually attempt to cash in on the situation unlike the AI in the regular game. It would also add a new dimension to the competition between the three playable Roman factions.

    Anyway, as Myddraal said the emphasis should be on getting the system working. If people want to have an historically accurate mod or any number of other options, there's sure to be adaptions of the more popular existing mods for the multiplayer campaign. Right now the focus should be on testing the game for bugs and playability, and worrying about balance and personal preferences later.
    Well then Im gonna be the Senate Ill order all three factions to SURRENDER their armies/lands back to the real ruling state and thus use them to conquer the world!!!jkn

    Three playable Roman factions... Now doesnt that sound nice? that Roman republic was a feudalised MEDIEVAL state? With barons and Dukes owning estates and being loosely united by the king/Senate? So to make the MILITARY ONLY civil wars that NOT factions but individual GENERALS and their armies fought?
    I know that CA treats us like impared 12 years olds that doesnt mean that we have to keep this and support it...
    The ONLY reason for the dumped down feudalised excuse of a republic to exist is the late challenge in SP. I can ensure you as far as the Greek cities are concerned you will get plenty of challnge.

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    Well id have to agree with other people in saying that this is not a major build and its really only to test it out and see how it works. Im perfectly fine if we play vanilla (although i would like the senate removed and the three roman factions not allied). Im also perfectly fine if you want to create a simple mp mod. I just want to get this campaign started because it will take quite a while to play through.

    Hellenes, if you can finish your mod by next week (monday would be awesome) then i vote that we play hellenes mod. I know thats a bit of a rush but remember this is just an initial test. Youll have plenty of other chances to play mods that are as historically accurate as you want. Otherwise if you cant get your mod done by then i say that we just play Vanilla1.2 with the senate removed and the romans not as allies. In the meantime we need to fill the remaining spots so it would be a good idea to start spreading the word. Hellenes if you are able to get your mod done then please post so as soon as you can along with your new faction list so we know how many spots are left.

    In the meantime can we have an updated faction list for Vanilla1.2 and who has each faction along with their email and/or AIM.

    Again I will play as Thrace. My email is shifty@verizon.net. My AIM is shifty75.
    Predator will be playing as Scythia. His AIM is stretch388.
    KashmirKing will be playing as Dacia. His AIM is DrPhlogiston01.

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    I'll be Carthage then, since Rome will be unified.

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    List updated
    (Rome) The Stranger
    (Gaul)
    (Briton) Craterus
    (Germen) littleganon
    (Dicia) KashmirKing
    (Thrace) Shifty
    (Spain)
    (Scythia) Predator
    (Poutus) Destroyer of Hope
    (Greek city states) Hellenes
    (Macedon) King Malcom
    (Secluded Empire)
    (Egypt) kingwill
    (Cathrage) Ignoramus
    (Numida) Tedward
    (Parthia)
    (Armarania(sp?)
    If i missed anyone please let me know
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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty157
    Well id have to agree with other people in saying that this is not a major build and its really only to test it out and see how it works. Im perfectly fine if we play vanilla (although i would like the senate removed and the three roman factions not allied). Im also perfectly fine if you want to create a simple mp mod. I just want to get this campaign started because it will take quite a while to play through.

    Hellenes, if you can finish your mod by next week (monday would be awesome) then i vote that we play hellenes mod. I know thats a bit of a rush but remember this is just an initial test. Youll have plenty of other chances to play mods that are as historically accurate as you want. Otherwise if you cant get your mod done by then i say that we just play Vanilla1.2 with the senate removed and the romans not as allies. In the meantime we need to fill the remaining spots so it would be a good idea to start spreading the word. Hellenes if you are able to get your mod done then please post so as soon as you can along with your new faction list so we know how many spots are left.

    In the meantime can we have an updated faction list for Vanilla1.2 and who has each faction along with their email and/or AIM.

    Again I will play as Thrace. My email is shifty@verizon.net. My AIM is shifty75.
    Predator will be playing as Scythia. His AIM is stretch388.
    KashmirKing will be playing as Dacia. His AIM is DrPhlogiston01.
    My RTR light mod will be done The LATEST by the end of next week (Sunday) Ill see what Destroyer of Hope has accomplished so far.
    Now I have this Idea:
    Make ALL faction units unique: like the Hellenistic states will seemingly share units like levy pikemen BUT in the code they will have EACH their own levy pikemen unit.
    So then this units will be restricted to the historicall areas of that factions NO GOVERNMENT buildings eg. you can build levy pikemen as the Macedon in your homelands NOWHERE else!
    Also each individual unit will have separate costs depending on the INCOME of each faction's homelands eg. Seleucid levy pikemen/pikemen/Companions will cost higher and have higher upkeep than the Thracian or Makedonian pikemen.
    This way Numidia/Germany/Scythia and other poor countries will have lower upkeep/cost for their units and will compete BUT they will NOT dominate because they will produce units ONLY in their homelands.
    Of course this all is going to be tested and tested and balanced balanced balanced balanced balanced....
    But for the time being the light mod will suffice.
    If anyone wants to assist with/has any different ideas feel free to comment.

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    i agree with making each factions units unique, but i think that the area of recruitment is a bit extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellenes
    My RTR light mod will be done The LATEST by the end of next week (Sunday) Ill see what Destroyer of Hope has accomplished so far.
    Now I have this Idea:
    Make ALL faction units unique: like the Hellenistic states will seemingly share units like levy pikemen BUT in the code they will have EACH their own levy pikemen unit.
    So then this units will be restricted to the historicall areas of that factions NO GOVERNMENT buildings eg. you can build levy pikemen as the Macedon in your homelands NOWHERE else!
    Also each individual unit will have separate costs depending on the INCOME of each faction's homelands eg. Seleucid levy pikemen/pikemen/Companions will cost higher and have higher upkeep than the Thracian or Makedonian pikemen.
    This way Numidia/Germany/Scythia and other poor countries will have lower upkeep/cost for their units and will compete BUT they will NOT dominate because they will produce units ONLY in their homelands.
    Of course this all is going to be tested and tested and balanced balanced balanced balanced balanced....
    But for the time being the light mod will suffice.
    If anyone wants to assist with/has any different ideas feel free to comment.

    Hellenes
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    If someone hasn't already taken it (it isn't on the list) could I please be Iberia?

    EDIT: If not Iberia then could I have the Seleucids?
    Last edited by Silver Rusher; 10-30-2005 at 15:21.
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