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    Sports Freak Member dgfred's Avatar
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    Default Re: HRE: Stagnating Influence

    Quote Originally Posted by OlafTheBrave
    I wouldn't worry too much about influence especially as the HRE. Nobody is going to like you anyway. :D Now as far as crusades remember they dont "have" to be dirrected at the GA goal provinces. Those pagan and orthodox provinces to the north will work just as well.
    I never thought of this until you posted it previously , what
    a magnificant stategy . Gets you the desired provinces, plus
    very good troops that are not usually available early in the game .

    Thanks again for the tip.
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    I agree with the crusading close to home idea. It may seem like a lot of work for something “Right There” easily within reach but the little extra benefits you get are worth it, like influence, cool troops, and crusades can help the pope like you.
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    Default Re: HRE: Stagnating Influence

    In GA I found that my leaders influence rises if i complete a GA goal. Mainly the homelands goal. I have had a 4 influence king before the year where the GA homeland points are counted, and a 7 influence king after it.

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    Default Re: HRE: Stagnating Influence

    Quote Originally Posted by yesdachi
    I agree with the crusading close to home idea. It may seem like a lot of work for something “Right There” easily within reach but the little extra benefits you get are worth it, like influence, cool troops, and crusades can help the pope like you.
    Absolutely!! Just recently (Sicily/early/hard VI2.01), I sent a bunch of Inquisitors into HRE to raise zeal, whilst I trained a crusade and a few troops. Trained the crusade in Sicly,then I launched it toward the last province egypt was holding at the time, Bulgaria - not too far away at all.

    However, I sent the crusade up through HRE - starting in Provence, then Burgandy, Tyrolia, and Austria (ALL HRE holdings ATM). - soaking up their units and leaving provinces weaker.. heh heh (I had other nasty things going on too - moving emissaries all through the HRE empre and bribing lots of small armies *grin*).

    Egypt awaiting it's destiny in Bulgaria, my crusade is going to make one more stop, in Hungary, and then they will be finished.

    I think I will have nearly 2K additional troops I hoovered from HRE by the time the Eggys are gone.

    Anway, crusade nearby - many benefits.

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    Hmmm, I had thought that there was a thing which inhibited Crusades from moving more distant from their target than the province where they start off but, if it let you move from Sicily to Provence (west) then maybe I was wrong about that.

    Perhaps it was a move made by ship and that confused it?

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    So did I - and in fact when preparing for this - I had Inquisitors in other possible targets more to the east - croatia, serbia, austria JUST in case. But on the first move of the crusade, it let me go to Provence... so I did.

    Yes it was with a ship. I think perhaps using a ship it is not so constrained - at least on the first move - not sure. But if I recall, I could have even gone WAY around to Flanders and Frieslande even - if I wanted to...

    I did end up with about 2K more troops. The eggys retreated, so I brought in a stack of catapaults, added them to the crusade and they are attacking the keep/castle - so next turn....

    I don't feel to cheesy about doing this - several times the AI has used crusades, wandering around my provinces not heading directly to it's target and sucked up troops - turn about feels good. *grin*

    DE

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