Impressive Hun battle

**antisocialmunky** · 10-01-2005, 02:04

Chalk one up for the AI. You can't say that hte AI fought well everyday.

**Kraxis** · 10-01-2005, 03:20

The AI did suffer horrendous losses on my right flank initially, so that drained its operational strength quite considerably. But that was mostly Chosen and Herdsmen, not HA.

The AI was also clever to deal with my own HA first as it was in general a good deal stronger in melee, and it protected my rear and flank. Without it I was forced to play Carrhae.

These battles are of course not what I experience every time. Mostly I still see small skirmishes or engagements near settlements (that is where my armies are, damned unrest), and at times it is downright foolish. But battles like this were extremely rare in vanialla RTW... I don't think there was a single second in that battle where I didn't smile (ok when poor Secundus died I was a bit furious as he was supposed to be a new governor).

**Colovion** · 10-01-2005, 03:33

Man, it's like I knew threads like this would be started with people who were really excited about the game.... but I never expected them to actually sway me to begin to crave the game myself! If someone relates a pleasurable MP experience I may just start salivating enough to purchase it.

**Orda Khan** · 10-01-2005, 10:57

Originally Posted by Colovion

Man, it's like I knew threads like this would be started with people who were really excited about the game.... but I never expected them to actually sway me to begin to crave the game myself! If someone relates a pleasurable MP experience I may just start salivating enough to purchase it.

First report I have about MP is indeed favourable, Colovion. It seems infantry stand a long time and melee lasts quite a while longer. Cavalry is no longer over powered. I would advise you to get it, the Eastern army choice is much better than any before

......Orda

**Uesugi Kenshin** · 10-01-2005, 03:34

Guess I'll have to be a bit more careful in BI than I tended to be in RTW.

BTW anyone know if having a pike line as a sort of safe jumping off point for cavalry attacks still works? To explain more fully, having a line of pikemen that will be able to protect your missile units and hopefully hold the line if your cavalry is destroyed. Then having a fairly large amount of elite cavalry go out and flank the enemy/frontal charge when necessary to actually destroy the enemy army. In RTR 5.4.1 I was able to do this with Pontus to an extreme degree, never really used the pikes, sometimes 2 generals and a unit of Pontic Heavies could take a full (fairly competent) stack. I probably won't use it anyway, just wondering.

**Kraxis** · 10-01-2005, 03:44

Well, it will work to keep you safe from defeat now. But given the strength of the spearmen against cavalry and their ability to withstand the charge I would not think it is possible anymore.

Also, the AI will be more observant towards cohesion and addressing flanking units if it can.

**Uesugi Kenshin** · 10-01-2005, 04:01

Ah, very good, thanks. I was mostly using it against phalanx heavy armies (Egypt, Greeks) so it will hopefully not work anymore, at least not without much heavier losses. Good luck with your campaign!