Judith Miller out, Scooter Libby the source

**Red Harvest** · 09-30-2005, 21:34

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/...eak/index.html

So much for the conspiracy theories that it was a Clinton official, etc. I'm wondering why she sat in jail for this long before being given direct assurance she could testify?

**Crazed Rabbit** · 09-30-2005, 21:43

She thinks 3 months is a 'very long time' in jail? Good thing she wasn't sentenced to jail for several years and just held for contempt of court.

Well, sounds like we now know one guy to throw in Jail-and it isn't Karl Rove!! GASP!! I wonder if the media will print articles discussing their mistakes in visciously hounding Rove. 5'll get ya 10 they don't.

Nevermind the 'outed' agent wasn't undercover, anyways.

Crazed Rabbit

**solypsist** · 09-30-2005, 22:54

She spent the time in jail because she didn't believe that she'd been given proper consent to reveal the source. She had, but there was a miscommunication. The source thought she was protecting a different source, so never said anything to her about it. Stupid if you ask me.

It's nice to hear that Cheney's chief of staff knew all about what happened, maybe now Bush will stand behind is promise to can anyone involved when the names start coming out.

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**Aurelian** · 09-30-2005, 23:42

This sentence, from a Yahoo News article I can't link to at the moment, seems crucial:

"Miller also said she agreed to testify only after her lawyers secured an agreement with the prosecutor in the case, Patrick Fitzgerald, to narrow the scope of her testimony to her conversations with that single source."

Libby's attorney claims that he had issued Miller a waiver a year ago, but Miller dismisses that waiver as a "form waiver". She claims that she was waiting for personal approval from Scooter Libby in the form of a note and conversation that she could testify. Libby's attorney says that Libby was under the impression she was trying to protect someone else... thus accounting for the delay.

Hmmm. Sounds like we might not get the whole story from Judith Miller. If the prosecutor had to agree to her condition (that she only testifies to her conversations with Libby), then any conversations she had with other reporters and other administration officials won't get on the record. Seems to me that some real dirt may stay hidden.

By the way, Miller fingering Libby IN NO WAY lets Karl Rove off the hook. We already have testimony that Rove talked to another reporter on the subject... and we have testimony from other reporters that haven't been made public yet. There are several layers of legality here, and despite spirited attempts by the right-wing media to portray her as such, Valerie Plame was not "out". She was still a NOC. NOCs are a big deal. We'll just have to see if there is enough evidence for a round of indictments.

**Red Harvest** · 10-01-2005, 02:04

Limiting the discussion to specific areas made some sense. The fishing expedition concern was certainly reasonable. So I'm supposed to trust Libby's version of events? HAH!

Our chances of getting anything resembling the truth out of members of this administration are pretty darned slim.