Question about a possible EB-BI..........

**Steppe Merc** · 10-02-2005, 19:20

Originally Posted by jerby

i only know baout the enemy lifting sieges when reloading...

though it's neve rbothered me..whenever i reload im completly oblivious to what happened the day before...

I know, same with me, which is probably why I never noticed it.

**Moros** · 10-02-2005, 20:18

yeah I've heard talkin well I've read posts about it. I never noticed it untill then.
But I believe there's no AI improvement the only features you can make use of would be the formations, the horde-thingy and religion. But the latter I believe might be possible to do also in RTW.

**jerby** · 10-02-2005, 20:25

speeking of formations..how is teh shieldwall? and teh schildtron(sp?)?

**Mr Frost** · 10-03-2005, 00:30

Originally Posted by jerby

speeking of formations..how is teh shieldwall? and teh schildtron(sp?)?

(Sentences start with a capital)speeking(sp!) of formations..how is teh(sp!) shieldwall? and teh(sp!) schildtron(sp?)?

Sorry , I just like irony

**econ21** · 10-03-2005, 00:47

Originally Posted by Gertgregoor

But I believe there's no AI improvement the only features you can make use of would be the formations, the horde-thingy and religion. But the latter I believe might be possible to do also in RTW.

If you read some of Kraxis's posts in the Colosseum, there seem to have been some improvements in the AI. And there's definitely been some hard coded changes in horse vs infantry combat, in favour of the latter.

I think it's inevitable EB is upgraded for the 1.3 patch (if such a thing comes) but understand Khlevan's desire to release an open beta with 1.2.

Doing an EB-BI would be a whole other thing of course, requiring a lot more work.

**GoreBag** · 10-03-2005, 00:52

Originally Posted by Simon Appleton

I think it's inevitable EB is upgraded for the 1.3 patch (if such a thing comes) but understand Khlevan's desire to release an open beta with 1.2.

Version 1.3 apparently creates problems when using non-playable factions. Macedon, for example, causes a CTD upon commencement of a campaign.

**Steppe Merc** · 10-03-2005, 01:05

Originally Posted by NeonGod

Version 1.3 apparently creates problems when using non-playable factions. Macedon, for example, causes a CTD upon commencement of a campaign.

Hmm. And if that cannot be over come, no way in hell will we use it.

**Reverend Joe** · 10-03-2005, 02:12

Just stick with 1.2. You have been working with that version for way too long to change now. (Granted, I have absolutely no knowledge of modding, but I do know that if it isn't broken, don't try to fix it.)

**Geoffrey S** · 10-03-2005, 13:05

Originally Posted by meatwad

Just stick with 1.2. You have been working with that version for way too long to change now. (Granted, I have absolutely no knowledge of modding, but I do know that if it isn't broken, don't try to fix it.)

But it is broken.

**cunctator** · 10-03-2005, 12:47

Originally Posted by NeonGod

Version 1.3 apparently creates problems when using non-playable factions. Macedon, for example, causes a CTD upon commencement of a campaign.

I`ve tested macedon and had no problem, at least in the first few turns.

Vanilla 1.3 and Bi only crashed when factions were set to playable in the "descr_strat" with no entry in the "campaign_descriptions" file. (numidia, lomardii, burgundii for example) After adding this entries they were as playable as in 1.2.

**infierno** · 10-04-2005, 06:56

guys, believe me, i tryed BI and its FAAAAAAAAAR better in all aspects

AI is better, the cavalry flanks, is more clever, the archers dont walk under arrows rain, no masive routs, better all, im really enjoying now

and the time period is (FOR ME AND PROBLY FOR US FAR BETTER) much more barbarian horiented, not all those phalanx wars, the ambientation is better for me, and the color (darker) and the soldiers clothes are far better
plus you could use the shield wall and shiltrom right?

i 100% agree with you that RB for VALNILLA RTW 1.3 or 1.5....<- important) is a must, to enjoy rtw, without bugs and more historical accuarate
then, release a EB BI will be the end of a great job, more than 700 years of history in a game!

**Krusader** · 10-04-2005, 13:18

Originally Posted by infierno

guys, believe me, i tryed BI and its FAAAAAAAAAR better in all aspects

AI is better, the cavalry flanks, is more clever, the archers dont walk under arrows rain, no masive routs, better all, im really enjoying now

and the time period is (FOR ME AND PROBLY FOR US FAR BETTER) much more barbarian horiented, not all those phalanx wars, the ambientation is better for me, and the color (darker) and the soldiers clothes are far better
plus you could use the shield wall and shiltrom right?

i 100% agree with you that RB for VALNILLA RTW 1.3 or 1.5....<- important) is a must, to enjoy rtw, without bugs and more historical accuarate
then, release a EB BI will be the end of a great job, more than 700 years of history in a game!

I haven't seen so much of that. The enemy still stands still when I pepper them with arrows and dont come at me (exception is horse archers).
How long have you played BI btw?

Anywho, as stated several places EB is waiting to see how much BI changes, what new features there are, what new bugs there are, how much can be modded, what can't be modded etc.

If we port over to BI, rest assured, we will say so.

And to quote, khelvan: EB will be made for vanilla RTW too, so those who do not have BI should not be afraid