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    Hmm I would want a Leopard II or Abrams. Mainly because there are three M-60's sitting less than a mile from my school and if I was going to have an AFV I wouldn't want anything nearby to be able to match it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uesugi Kenshin
    Hmm I would want a Leopard II or Abrams. Mainly because there are three M-60's sitting less than a mile from my school and if I was going to have an AFV I wouldn't want anything nearby to be able to match it.
    Dude, just go with a fleet of BMP-2s.

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    Well, since you can't personally control more than one vehicle (not then not it's weapons) I would personally go for a major stock of AT-landmines.

    Imagine a Vaco where they had laid an AT-minefield... Ouch!
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    I would be content with a modern MBT or two, especially a Leopard II or Abrams.
    And an AT minefield woulnd't help me get around, besides with an MBT you don't have to worry about drunk drivers!
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    I hate the 7.62mm's lack of anti material hitting power. Gimme a 14.5x115mm any time.

    Also, I would want a Type 98G tank equipped with a PRC05 125mm cannon, heavy explosive reactive armor for stopping those nasty APFSDS rounds and 2x 14.5mm remote controlled, indepedently wired machine guns for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonArchangel
    Also, I would want a Type 98G tank equipped with a PRC05 125mm cannon, heavy explosive reactive armor for stopping those nasty APFSDS rounds and 2x 14.5mm remote controlled, indepedently wired machine guns for it.
    You do know that sabots are not affected by reactive armour right? That is HEAT and other shaped charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    China is not a world power. China is the world, and it's surrounded by a ring of tiny and short-lived civilisations like the Americas, Europeans, Mongols, Moghuls, Indians, Franks, Romans, Japanese, Koreans.

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    Impressed...
    So we haven't heard about this because? It would be dangerous? And why isn't there work on how to defeat this?

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    Reactive armour is good for the first shot... but it doesn't have the equivalent of extra armour on the second shot to the same spot... I wonder if a high density shotgun like shell could set off a large zone of the reactive armour then followed by a sabot.
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    Imagine a Vaco where they had laid an AT-minefield... Ouch!
    Do you mean Waco?

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    Yeah... Oops, a mistype really. But still, think about it. Old AT-mines are available for a fair price, andthose guys certainly had weapons, and some interesting ones too. I wouldn't be too surprised if they could have gotten hold of those mines.
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    Yes, that would have made for quite an interesting scenario. If I ever become an eccentric person, I'll try to get hold of some of those. You can never be too sure with our FBI.

    Too bad they weren't able to deploy something like that.

    As to rifles, I'd be interested in trying out the new blended metal bullets they're experimenting with.

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    Pape: Autocannons from IFVs and such can peel off (some) reactive armor, allowing tanks to get in a follow up shot. Also, most ERA is fairly difficult to trip off unless something big and nasty, like an RPG-7 round or above hits it. The high density shotgun round might not trip off every plate, reducing its reliability greatly. Something that can trip off ERA are AT cluster munitions fired by artillery or aircraft.
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    What I mean by a high density shotgun round is a tank main gun fired uranium scatter shot. Anti-personal/light armour type of weapon... Probably fuse detonated so it separates near the target rather then a couple of metres out of the gun.
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    On the subject of bullpups and left handers, its even worse if you are left dominant eye. I am right handed but my left eye is strongly dominant, so that I shoot left handed. Which is fine except the SA80 can only be fired right handed (unless you want a face full of casings).

    Which essentially means I couldn't fire it at all, since its not too clever an idea to go around firing off an assault rifle without being reasonably confident what it was aimed at.

    What a brilliant design.
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