Loyalty etc

[BobTheTerrible]

I have a few questions pertaining to loyalty- First off, I'm assuming the Romans are the only ones with the loyalty trait? Secondly, do the Eastern Roman Rebels and Western Roman Rebels count as factions for purposes of the faction limit? I'm assuming they do, but it would be nice if one could give every faction the loyalty trait and have a chance of civil war for all factions.

And one last miscellaneous question- At twc I think it was somebody mentioned something about having a new faction trait, called re_emergent or something. Is this just having the faction emerge like the Romano-British or is like having MTW style faction re-emergences after they've been wiped out?

[Dutch_guy]

Yes only the Romans have the loyalty feature, at least I haven't seen any of my Celt leaders have it.

And yes the rebel Roman factions do count as stand alone factions.

As for your last question, I haven't -in my limited time playing that is -, seen a re-emergence, have seen a regular emergance ( those Romano British ) , who didn't really last long against my Celts

[Craterus]

The Goths have loyalty too. If a general rebels, the Ostrogoths "emerge". It's all in the manual, you'd do well to read it

[[DnC]]

Besides the Romans and Goths, I've also seen a Romano-Brittish factionleader with the loyalty bar.

[Craterus]

Odd, in the manual it says it can only happen with those 3. Well, that's cool 'cos I'm annoyed that only a few factions can have civil wars.

[Azi Tohak]

My top two generals (I am ERE) both have two rings' loyalty, however, I am keeping them with some other generals that have four or five ring loyalty. Do you suppose this will prevent revolts?

I did have one result, but I sacked Hatra, abandonded it, and then the ERE rebels appeared. With peasants. So I sent my eastern front-line army out there and crushed them quickly to keep them from spreading.

Azi

[Dutch_guy]

Odd, in the manual it says it can only happen with those 3. Well, that's cool 'cos I'm annoyed that only a few factions can have civil wars.

Well I wouldn't call them civil wars, in my ERE when I got this so called Civil war only 1 province turned rebel (ERER ). I would have liked to seen (My)whole empire fall in half into a civil war, you know what you coul d get in MTW.

Still it's better than nothing, I can live with this