I never had a problem with the Pope until now

**Budwise** · 10-08-2005, 11:24

I decided to take on the germans before I had Naval Superiority. BIG MISTAKE

After 30 years of war, I have beaten the biggest faction in Western Europe besides me all the way to Britain. At that point, I was quickly attacked by Poland which wouldn't have been a big deal if SPAIN would just leave me the hell alone. I conquer all of spain just to have one province rebel and BOOM, Spanish are back with an armada of advance troops. I mean I am outnumbered at least 4 to 1 and I hold them back with DECISIVE VICTORY AFTER DECISIVE VICTORY. I got Excommed and my whole land just wants to rebel but I fight them off. I do something really stupid and I kill off the pope just to relieve some stress off of the rebellions and UBERPOPE come back 3 years later with more troops than the horde - IN FOUR PROVIDENCES.

I said screw it and slashed and burn't everything he landed on except for Venace and the other provience that I can hold in Italy. To make a long story short, I BEAT THE HELL OUT OF HIM in my two provinces that I wanted to hold with my Dismounted Chiv Knights. SO, now I am Excommed, moneys getting low and my front line is DECIMATED on all fronts. If Egypt wasn't attacking the Horde and Poland, I would be so screwed its not even funny.

Chiv Knights may be awesome but even heros die quickly when outnumbered 4 to 1.

Oh, England came back at Tuscany and they have a stack. WHAT IS UP WITH THE REEMERGING FACTIONS WITH THE UBER ARMIES. Even Hitler couldn't find all of these troops for the Battle of the Bulge. This game is fun but I don't need a Reemerging faction every 5 turns. I'm not even that big, I would say I own maybe 25% of map and Egypt is bigger than me.

**EatYerGreens** · 10-08-2005, 12:50

Originally Posted by Budwise

- IN FOUR PROVIDENCES.

I said screw it and slashed and burn't everything he landed on except for Venace and the other provience that I can hold in Italy. To make a long story short, I BEAT THE HELL OUT OF HIM in my two provinces

Ahhh, so you DO know how to spell 'province' then? You've been baiting us to correct you all this time?

Actually, that's three different spellings you used in as many sentences. Can you please pick one of them and stick to it?

**antisocialmunky** · 10-08-2005, 13:03

Sounds liek a fun game, I'll give you an e-cookie if you win.

**Budwise** · 10-08-2005, 21:06

Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

Ahhh, so you DO know how to spell 'province' then? You've been baiting us to correct you all this time?

Actually, that's three different spellings you used in as many sentences. Can you please pick one of them and stick to it?

I post at like 3 am, give me a break. From now on, I will just spell Territory, better?

**Pericles** · 10-08-2005, 23:33

Budwise:

Sounds like you are having a great game. There are always ways to make for a challenging game.

BTW, if you want an even tougher game:

After you have selected the faction you want to play, give ALL other factions 500,000 to 1,000,000 florins.

This way only you have to worry about building up an income; the AI doesn't have to worry about it. Imagine playing against that UBER Pope who will never go bankrupt...

I have been spanked badly by the AI in several games...

Cheers!

**AntiochusIII** · 10-09-2005, 04:46

Nah. That kind of challenge isn't fun. The AI will bribe the hell out of everything and eventually stood in their massive armies and debts from all that upkeep that would make the American National debts look like a simple dime to pay off.

**Pericles** · 10-09-2005, 23:29

Originally Posted by AntiochusIII

Nah. That kind of challenge isn't fun. The AI will bribe the hell out of everything and eventually stood in their massive armies and debts from all that upkeep that would make the American National debts look like a simple dime to pay off.

I always play this way - makes the AI a real challenge and bribing has never been an issue...

As I mentioned previously, the AI has spanked me on more than one occassion...

With all those funds, the AI, whether land-locked or on the ocean, never has to worry about cash flow and it builds and upgrades to its heart content...

That's what makes MTW so versatile - play it the way you like to play it...

Cheers!

**Budwise** · 10-09-2005, 07:05

Originally Posted by Pericles

Budwise:

Sounds like you are having a great game. There are always ways to make for a challenging game.

BTW, if you want an even tougher game:

After you have selected the faction you want to play, give ALL other factions 500,000 to 1,000,000 florins.

This way only you have to worry about building up an income; the AI doesn't have to worry about it. Imagine playing against that UBER Pope who will never go bankrupt...

I have been spanked badly by the AI in several games...

Cheers!

I might just give the pope all of that money. Nothing gets my game more excited than going up against a Zealous Dictator. Sweet, thanks for the idea.

**Budwise** · 10-09-2005, 07:06

I'm going to play a few different games for a while but I suspect sometime this week I will finish the game, one way or the other, by next week.

I just don't want to get MTW burn't out again.

**Pericles** · 10-09-2005, 23:34

Originally Posted by Budwise

I might just give the pope all of that money. Nothing gets my game more excited than going up against a Zealous Dictator. Sweet, thanks for the idea.

Budwise:

I always play MTW by giving all other factions more florins. It makes for a very challenging game. Only you will have to worry about cash flow...

Believe me, you will have your hands full...

Cheers!

**Pericles** · 10-09-2005, 23:41

Also, if you go into the campaign files located in the following directory:

C:\Program Files\Total War\Medieval - Total War\campmap\startpos

You can change the aggressiveness of all the factions - ie make them ALL expansionist...

Cheers!