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[LeftEyeNine]

Serious progress, huh ?

[Templar Knight]

Where’s clayton? Who cares

Although his threats made me laugh, especially when I confronted him over copyrighted material.

[Mikeus Caesar]

"GAH!"s, "..Yes Right Now!"s and one piece of Clayton..

This forum is really growing into an effective subculture...

All forums have their little cultures, unique to them. Look at the .Org, as well as GAH and all that, the culture is different in the fact that if you ignore the backroom, this place is quite laid back and nice, compared to most other places where everyone screams at each other and can barely spell.

OMGZ!! tht iz so nt tru!! u lozer!! LOL!! Batle Mage r bttr!!

[Mongoose]

omgz u n00b da otr forem r n0t ovelee agreesiive u n00!!!1!!!11!!!

[Mikeus Caesar]

omgz u n00b da otr forem r n0t ovelee agreesiive u n00!!!1!!!11!!!

ZOMFG!1!!!1! u didnt jst sy tht, u n00b!!1! u hax0rz!! i kll u!! im so totlly beter thn u, n00b!!!111oneone!!

[Geoffrey S]

Excuse me? *cough* I mean, GAH!!!

[AntiochusIII]

All forums have their little cultures, unique to them. Look at the .Org, as well as GAH and all that, the culture is different in the fact that if you ignore the backroom, this place is quite laid back and nice, compared to most other places where everyone screams at each other and can barely spell.

Exactly. Even the Backroom is actually much less violent than many others, simply because all the arguing (erm...battling...or...warring?) sides are just, in the end, internet "friends" with each other. The .org also profits from its "potential" membership simply on the fact that this is the fansite (a prime one, nonetheless) for Total War series. That means strategy game lovers are potential members, and, at least, if you know and like strategy you should be able to type something more coherent than that cursed "leet" (right?) language, which I presume is the ancient one used before the Tower of Babel was built.

Some other fandoms, either they are more diverse or whatever, had many potential "forum members" with, all due respect, whiny fanboys/girls who couldn't put together a coherent post. And fansite forums of such fandoms suffered as a result. One of that I'd say (from experience) is the anime fandom. Too many absolutely baka people, kids or adults, seriously, and probably even worse than Clayton in behavior. Not everyone of course, but of larger proportional than the .org's members.

[Byzantine Prince]

Great post AntiochusIII!

I think you have good insight, I often find myself fully agreeing with you. I also understand what you mean by baka people on anime forums and l77t people in Counter Strike. They cannot make a decent post if their life depended on it.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Today I was out for some business to sort out and had to cross a crowded road at some point. I walked towards where I knew was a traffic lamp just to see that they removed it to some three hundred metres away. I had to walk backwards to the next one fifty metres to the opposite direction. Suddenly I heard someone screaming "GAH!", who was indeed noone but me.


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[Kaiser of Arabia]

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Today I was out for some business to sort out and had to cross a crowded road at some point. I walked towards where I knew was a traffic lamp just to see that they removed it to some three hundred metres away. I had to walk backwards to the next one fifty metres to the opposite direction. Suddenly I heard someone screaming "GAH!", who was indeed noone but me.


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I've used gah as part of a speech in school on several occasions, to the usual "what in the name of all things [censored for good of humanity] is GAH?"

I also signed yearbooks when I was in 8th Grade as, "GAH! CUT OFF HEADS! MAKE HEAD SOUP! GAH!" [part of a much longer, more compassionate note].

[Reverend Joe]

What the hell IS leet? And what are all the other random words these people use? It's like trying to speak to a Yahoo (not in the modern sense, but in the Jonathan Swift, retarted-humanity-parody sense.) I feel like I am eight hundred years old when I speak to them, as if I only spoke middle english- "...And palmeres for to seeken straunge strondes, to ferne halwes, couth in sondry londes;"

[Mongoose]

1337 15 @b0u7 9\/\//\/1/\/6 /\/00bz



In other words, it have no idea.

[Byzantine Prince]

GAH! Is like God! Said in a frustrating tone.

Leet, is Elite said in a very leet way.

N00b is newbie.

b00b is what girls have.

[R'as al Ghul]

What the hell IS leet? And what are all the other random words these people use?

You may want to look at this translator: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/leet.php

Also, the words aren't random. Characters are replaced by
numbers or symbols that look alike. A=4 or @ for example.

[English assassin]

That answered "what the hell IS leet", although "why the hell IS leet" is still baffling me.

There again I am holding off getting an MP3 player because I am not confident I will be able to put tracks on it, and what's wrong with CDs anyway, so I guess I have to accept that I am now officially not down with the kids.

[R'as al Ghul]

although "why the hell IS leet" is still baffling me.

Just being different and excluding others from the conversation?
You know the thing young people do.....

There again I am holding off getting an MP3 player because I am not confident I will be able to put tracks on it, and what's wrong with CDs anyway, so I guess I have to accept that I am now officially not down with the kids.

I'm pondering the same question for months. Actually I find those little
MP3 toys cute and handy. Their biggest advantage is size.
The downside of them is DRM (Digital Rights Management). I certainly can't
be bothered to call the Label every other day to check if I'm still allowed
to listen to the music I've already paid for.
You could of course rip your CD's to MP3's and put them on a player that
accepts non-DRM files but then again, why not burn a mix CD?
GAH!

[English assassin]

Actually I find those little
MP3 toys cute and handy. Their biggest advantage is size.

True. But the internal batteries die almost as quickly as the ones in mobile phones (and at least you can replace those). And then its knackered.

I'm sorry but I refuse to regard something costing £100 or more as being essentially disposable. That's exactly the way our capitalist masters want us to think.

[R'as al Ghul]

True. But the internal batteries die almost as quickly as the ones in mobile phones (and at least you can replace those). And then its knackered.

I'm sorry but I refuse to regard something costing £100 or more as being essentially disposable. That's exactly the way our capitalist masters want us to think.

Right! Prices are absolutely insane/ fantastic.
I was thinking of the little "sticks" that can also play mp3's but
dedicated players like the large Ipod or Sony's Zen are almost as expensive
as a new notebook or even a digital SLR camera.

I think I'm going analog again.....
*searches old boxes for the original Sony Walkman*

[TosaInu]

From what I know about leet. It started as a sort of shorthand in electronic communication. Not a kids invention. Later kids picked it up and modified it to make it cool.

MP3 players eat batteries indeed. My first one was a very cheap stick. I expected it would run for some 40 hours at least on 1 AAA size, maybe even more Oh shock and horror, it quit after 4 hours!

I've looked around a bit, and saw that this was normal for such players. 20 and even 10 hours is regarded splendid. There's one that promissed 70 hours, it can contain several albums and costs a bit more. That 70 hours depend on how you use it and also what format you use, I get some 50+ hours. It's a nifty little device, ships with good software, easy to operate; why didn't I have it 15 years ago instead of that bulky Walkman?

[The Stranger]

Byzantine Prince:this thread has degraded nicely

yup it has

[Mikeus Caesar]

I like pointless chit-chat. Or, as they would say on Martin Kelner's Late Thing (Friday and Saturday BBC Radio Sheffield 10pm till 1am) - Now, on Martin Kelner's Late Thing, yet another five minutes of pointless chit-chat.

[AntiochusIII]

Great post AntiochusIII!

I think you have good insight, I often find myself fully agreeing with you. I also understand what you mean by baka people on anime forums and l77t people in Counter Strike. They cannot make a decent post if their life depended on it.

Thank you.
Hmm, seeing your name and I think about Nietzshe. (Unintentional connection :?) May be I should start reading him? Yes, I should, actually. His name, his many quotes, and the "mystic" that comes with these, if used skillfully by a skilled speaker, could be useful in the debate tournaments I'm starting to have now. And whatever real understanding I get from his writings only boost the benefit.

My observations of the anime fandom seems to make it look like there are several types of anime fans, such as:
1) "133t /\/3\/\/b135" (direct translation: leet newbies--see the connection?), in other words, the ones I don't hate, but disdain. The "whiny fan[boys/girls]" and "ignorant noobs" are created specifically for them.
2) Passionate, even downright trolling, jaded fans. Many of them are, of course, knowledgable, but, oh for the love of GAH, I hate them and their attitudes.
3) Casual fans, diverse in behavior and level of interests, but share one thing in common: being uncommon.

However, I do find my use in the leet language. The "lol" "ROFL" "OMFG" (F is the key ) and "BTW" are useful abbreviations in my humble opinion. Oh yes, and IMO, too. Though excessive use is painful, the "lol" comment I find most useful in certain situations, when I have a desire to express my urge to laugh in text form. It seems a natural process for me, though any other "degradation" and I'll be doomed.

GAH also fits in this category. I find it a very useful expression in replacement of "God!", since I hate using "Gosh!" as most others use.

For what little I know, this rampant internet corruption was first created by the necessity to use abbreviations in text messages, most likely on cellphones, when, not really too long ago, there was a low limit on the amount of text in each message.

Anyway, I'm going too far OT (Off Topic) here.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Leet has been around pretty much as long as there have been internet games iirc. At least simple ones like gl hf, were around when I played Starcraft online (good luck have fun, before text cellphones from around when it came out until sometime in 2002-2003). I think it just came about because of the necessity (at times, though not always...) to say something quickly in a fast paced game.

[GoreBag]

I enjoyed 1337 when it was new, and fangled, and "owned" was never spelled with a "p". 0wnz0r was as dumb as it ever became. Now, people I know use the word "pwned" in actual speech. Sigh.

[Ser Clegane]

Now, people I know use the word "pwned" in actual speech. Sigh.

How do they pronounce it?

[Mouzafphaerre]

How do they pronounce it?

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In Welsh.
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