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**AntiochusIII** · 10-06-2005, 00:40

Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince

Great post AntiochusIII!

I think you have good insight, I often find myself fully agreeing with you. I also understand what you mean by baka people on anime forums and l77t people in Counter Strike. They cannot make a decent post if their life depended on it.

Thank you.

Hmm, seeing your name and I think about Nietzshe. (Unintentional connection :?) May be I should start reading him? Yes, I should, actually. His name, his many quotes, and the "mystic" that comes with these, if used skillfully by a skilled speaker, could be useful in the debate tournaments I'm starting to have now. And whatever real understanding I get from his writings only boost the benefit.

My observations of the anime fandom seems to make it look like there are several types of anime fans, such as:
1) "133t /\/3\/\/b135" (direct translation: leet newbies--see the connection?), in other words, the ones I don't hate, but disdain. The "whiny fan[boys/girls]" and "ignorant noobs" are created specifically for them.
2) Passionate, even downright trolling, jaded fans. Many of them are, of course, knowledgable, but, oh for the love of GAH, I hate them and their attitudes.
3) Casual fans, diverse in behavior and level of interests, but share one thing in common: being uncommon.

However, I do find my use in the leet language. The "lol" "ROFL" "OMFG" (F is the key

) and "BTW" are useful abbreviations in my humble opinion. Oh yes, and IMO, too. Though excessive use is painful, the "lol" comment I find most useful in certain situations, when I have a desire to express my urge to laugh in text form. It seems a natural process for me, though any other "degradation" and I'll be doomed.

GAH also fits in this category. I find it a very useful expression in replacement of "God!", since I hate using "Gosh!" as most others use.

For what little I know, this rampant internet corruption was first created by the necessity to use abbreviations in text messages, most likely on cellphones, when, not really too long ago, there was a low limit on the amount of text in each message.

Anyway, I'm going too far OT (Off Topic) here.

**Uesugi Kenshin** · 10-06-2005, 03:28

Leet has been around pretty much as long as there have been internet games iirc. At least simple ones like gl hf, were around when I played Starcraft online (good luck have fun, before text cellphones from around when it came out until sometime in 2002-2003). I think it just came about because of the necessity (at times, though not always...) to say something quickly in a fast paced game.

**GoreBag** · 10-06-2005, 05:18

I enjoyed 1337 when it was new, and fangled, and "owned" was never spelled with a "p". 0wnz0r was as dumb as it ever became. Now, people I know use the word "pwned" in actual speech. Sigh.