Legendary Weapons in BI?

[rebelscum]

Well the Arc of the Covenant supposedly destroys entire armies with a supernatural energy if carried before it. Some people say that it may have contained something radioactive. Maybe something dropped by a passing alien spaceship who knows.
The Holy Grail, well of course that resores life to anyone who drinks from it as it held the blood of christ, who we all know was an alien
So we can change the name of the game to alien invasion.

[rebelscum]

There are also the Rod of Aaron and the staff of Moses both pre-christian relics the Jewish religion could use for their armies.
The Rod of Aaron was supposedly stored in the arc of the covenant with the ten commandment tablets.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

what was the name of that special book of prophecies in Rome?

[antisocialmunky]

Well the Arc of the Covenant supposedly destroys entire armies with a supernatural energy if carried before it. Some people say that it may have contained something radioactive. Maybe something dropped by a passing alien spaceship who knows.
The Holy Grail, well of course that resores life to anyone who drinks from it as it held the blood of christ, who we all know was an alien
So we can change the name of the game to alien invasion.

Yes, God carved the 10 commandments in Krytonite...

Techinally, the ark itself never destroyed armies. It was just a symbol of God. It served to represent the state of the covenant. When the nation turend to Baal worship as they did, God would not protect them, not even the ark. Joshua 7:1-6, 1 Samuel 4:1-11 are examples of that, the Ark being captured by the Philitines in the latter. At 1 Samuel 6:11-21 and also at Numbers 4:6, 20 it was returned by the Philistines after it was catured because the Philistines were afraid of it, God punished the people for looking at it in a wrong(disrespectful) way.

When it was used faithfully, it dried up the Jordan for the Israelites to cross into the land and siege Jericho. The Philistines were afraid of it at 1 Samuel 4:6-8 when they found out the Israelites brought it into their camp and thus proceeded to run away. After the temple was built, it stayed in Jerusalem though sometime between Solomon and Josiah it was moved to somewhere else. The destruction of Sennacherib's army wasn't attributed to its presense either and it didn't protect the city from being conquered by the Babylonians.

It was lost sometime after Josiah became king and before the Babylonian conquest. Jeremiah 3:16, 17 foretold a time when the ark would be gone, a time when it would not be missed, and a time when his followers would not needed. This being after the Mosaic Covenant was disolved at the last supper.

Just a little historical proof. Wouldn't it be a little too campy anyways?

As for the Rod of Moses, it was destroyed because people tried to worship it. The jar of Manna and Staff of Aaron were eventually removed from the ark so that it contained only the commandments.

If you want a cool weapon, mod in Attila the Hun's war-god sword.

[Kraxis]

If you want a cool weapon, mod in Attila the Hun's war-god sword.

Talking about this?

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This is btw Merlin... Or Myrddyn. So it isn't that Arthurian.

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[lars573]

Well the Arc of the Covenant supposedly destroys entire armies with a supernatural energy if carried before it. Some people say that it may have contained something radioactive. Maybe something dropped by a passing alien spaceship who knows.
The Holy Grail, well of course that resores life to anyone who drinks from it as it held the blood of christ, who we all know was an alien
So we can change the name of the game to alien invasion.

Myself I've heard 2 theories in the arks ability to kill. The first being that the tablets the commandments were carved on was Urainium or something else radioactive. The other is that the Ark box itself could generate a powerful and potentially lethal electrical shock. The idea behind that is tha the Egyptians had stumbled on a way to generate electricity via a chemical reaction in canopic jars, which the Israelites some how found out and used in the construction of the Ark box. There is also another one that says the Egyptians then invented lights bulbs and used these canopic batteries to power them, but I digress. So some engineer tried to see of these Egyptian canopic-batteries could in fact generate electrical current and how much. These canopic batteries could in fact generate a current and if you connected enough to gether then you could generate a big enough jolt to kill a man. So then the theory goes that the Isrealites built these canopic batteries into the Ark's base and made most of the box out of conductive metals so that if you tried to open it and didn't grab the right part you got fried.

[rebelscum]

Myself I've heard 2 theories in the arks ability to kill. The first being that the tablets the commandments were carved on was Urainium or something else radioactive. The other is that the Ark box itself could generate a powerful and potentially lethal electrical shock. The idea behind that is tha the Egyptians had stumbled on a way to generate electricity via a chemical reaction in canopic jars, which the Israelites some how found out and used in the construction of the Ark box. There is also another one that says the Egyptians then invented lights bulbs and used these canopic batteries to power them, but I digress. So some engineer tried to see of these Egyptian canopic-batteries could in fact generate electrical current and how much. These canopic batteries could in fact generate a current and if you connected enough to gether then you could generate a big enough jolt to kill a man. So then the theory goes that the Isrealites built these canopic batteries into the Ark's base and made most of the box out of conductive metals so that if you tried to open it and didn't grab the right part you got fried.

Sounds cool. There was also supposedly a golden pot of hidden mana.
I'm trying to dig up some more ancient artifacts.

[antisocialmunky]

The problem with that is that you need a fair amount of amperage which can't be generated with the technology back then. I mean, they were like giant 9 volt batteries. Without a something to change the properties of the current, you can't do that.

[rebelscum]

We would need some very low resistance metals like 'gold', the whole arc could have been just one big battery.
Apparently, upon the chest were two cherubim of beaten gold, looking towards each other, and spreading their wings so that both sides of the propitiatory were covered. These could be positive and negative terminals.
Funny thing is the manna reference in the bible is sometimes attributed to mushrooms that Isrealites found when they were travelling to the promised land.

http://diseyes.lycaeum.org/fresh/mushmann.htm
BTW, please don't try eating strange fungi off the ground, or you might start seeing bright coloured lights, or even enjoy playing CA expansions that don't fix things like the enemy walking up to your castle walls without seige equipment and standing there whilst you shoot them.

Yes ok I'm in a funny mood.

[lars573]

The problem with that is that you need a fair amount of amperage which can't be generated with the technology back then. I mean, they were like giant 9 volt batteries. Without a something to change the properties of the current, you can't do that.

Not nessisarily. Amperage is the ratio of the Voltage to the ressistance of the medium the current must flow through. If the box was made mostly out of conductive materials then it could deliver a severe shock. By the simple virtue that the path to ground (the person touching the box) has very little resistance, human bodies are excellent conductors.

[rebelscum]

Would it be possible that the arc was some some of capacitor, storing the charge.
A capacitor consists of two electrodes or plates, each of which stores an opposite charge. These two plates are conductive and are separated by an insulator or dielectric. These could be tablets of moses.
Glass and ceramics are used in modern capacitors.

[antisocialmunky]

Then you would need a larger amount of voltage than the 1.5 volts generated per jar to create a sufficient conversion from high voltage to lethal amperage. That's about 6 jars per 9 volt battery, you'd be pretty hard pressed to fit very many of those in there.

Yes you could use it as a basic capacitor. With the inside storing one charge and the outside storing the other with the Acatia wood in between.

But seriously, why hell are you putting so much focus on what happened to that one guy who touched it and died? The Levites moved through the wilderness it a great deal and they were fine. Even the Philistines had no problems lugging it around.

[Ludens]

The other is that the Ark box itself could generate a powerful and potentially lethal electrical shock. The idea behind that is tha the Egyptians had stumbled on a way to generate electricity via a chemical reaction in canopic jars, which the Israelites some how found out and used in the construction of the Ark box. There is also another one that says the Egyptians then invented lights bulbs and used these canopic batteries to power them, but I digress. So some engineer tried to see of these Egyptian canopic-batteries could in fact generate electrical current and how much. These canopic batteries could in fact generate a current and if you connected enough to gether then you could generate a big enough jolt to kill a man. So then the theory goes that the Isrealites built these canopic batteries into the Ark's base and made most of the box out of conductive metals so that if you tried to open it and didn't grab the right part you got fried.

Was the name of that engineer Erich von Däniken? I didn't know he was an engineer, but I do know he made roughly the same claims about the Ark and the so-called "Batteries of Bagdad". I also know he told a number of things about other historical artifacts that are patently untrue.

From what I know (but that is not much), the Ark was not that different from the portable altars in use at that time, so it is strange that so many wonderous qualities are attributed to this single artifact.

Off course, it is possible that the Egyptians knew electricity, but these kind of ideas tend to outstrip the available evidence very fast, especially in a enviroment where there is so little ability to verify them as the internet.

[lars573]

Was the name of that engineer Erich von Däniken? I didn't know he was an engineer, but I do know he made roughly the same claims about the Ark and the so-called "Batteries of Bagdad". I also know he told a number of things about other historical artifacts that are patently untrue.

From what I know (but that is not much), the Ark was not that different from the portable altars in use at that time, so it is strange that so many wonderous qualities are attributed to this single artifact.

Off course, it is possible that the Egyptians knew electricity, but these kind of ideas tend to outstrip the available evidence very fast, especially in a enviroment where there is so little ability to verify them as the internet.

No that doof is a Archealogist through and though. If he had been the one expuing the theory of the arks powers I'd remember. I've marked him off as having watched to many sci-fi movies. No the guy I'm talking about was from UCLA (IIRC) and they just took him the directions for making the jar-battery and asked him to see if it could be recreated as exactly as possible and if it would in fact generate any kind of electrical energy.