-mod switch in BI

[player1]

You know the switch that makes it easy to start different mods from different folders.
Developers said it got improved in BI.

But when I try to make some mini-mod this way and use -mod swtich, it starts original RTW which crashes afterwards (due to imcompatile BI files I used).

I suspect it's beacuse to doesn't look in BI folder at all only in my mini-mod plus original RTW files.

When I put -mod:bi it starts unmoded BI flawlessly.
But with -mod:minimod it starts RTW (instead of BI) and then crashes afterwards.

Help?

[Monkwarrior]

One possibility is to use another type of mod switcher. I've just read this:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34559

I haven't tested yet, but if this works it would be easier than the ModSwitcher as it doesn't require any .rmd file.

[JeromeGrasdyke]

This is because the fallback directory for the BI exe (version 1.4) is the Rome dataset. This should allow you to make Rome mods which incorporate BI features, although you will want to keep in mind that not all BI features will be available in the 1.3 exe.

That means that when you're making a mod this way, you're always starting from the Rome dataset, rather than the BI one. If you wanted to make a BI mod which leaves the original BI untouched you could write a little installer which made a copy of the BI directory, renamed it to 'minimod', then installed your extra changed files into it and added a program shortcut to the base directory called "Minimod" which starts rometw-bi.exe with '-mod:minimod' on the command line.

It may sound a little confusing at first, but I'm sure people will get the hang of it.

[Stuie]

That means that when you're making a mod this way, you're always starting from the Rome dataset, rather than the BI one. If you wanted to make a BI mod which leaves the original BI untouched you could write a little installer which made a copy of the BI directory, renamed it to 'minimod', then installed your extra changed files into it and added a program shortcut to the base directory called "Minimod" which starts rometw-bi.exe with '-mod:minimod' on the command line.

Problem is, that's not working. I made an exact copy of the bi folder and changed nothing, created a new shortcut with -mod:bicopy on the command line, and I get an error:

"Script Error in bicopy/data/descr_items.txt, at line 15, column 9.
include file not found in data/descr_items/:'di_spot_items.txt'"

Considering I changed absolutely nothing, just made a straight copy, that seems a bit problematic.

[Lord Adherbal]

maybe you've missed descr_items.db ? I think that filetype is invisible if you have system files turned invisible, so you might have missed it if you copied all visible files and not the entire folder.

[Stuie]

maybe you've missed descr_items.db ? I think that filetype is invisible if you have system files turned invisible, so you might have missed it if you copied all visible files and not the entire folder.

Nope - it's in there. Are you saying you tried this and it works for you?

[player1]

This is because the fallback directory for the BI exe (version 1.4) is the Rome dataset. This should allow you to make Rome mods which incorporate BI features, although you will want to keep in mind that not all BI features will be available in the 1.3 exe.

That means that when you're making a mod this way, you're always starting from the Rome dataset, rather than the BI one. If you wanted to make a BI mod which leaves the original BI untouched you could write a little installer which made a copy of the BI directory, renamed it to 'minimod', then installed your extra changed files into it and added a program shortcut to the base directory called "Minimod" which starts rometw-bi.exe with '-mod:minimod' on the command line.

It may sound a little confusing at first, but I'm sure people will get the hang of it.

I understand this completly.
It is what I feared though. :(

In such case, I would need 600MB of space for any such mod, making it again not so useful for popular moding (like some bug-fixer that changes a few text file).

Any chance of making "double fallback switch" for next patch. Would be great.

Look in minimod folder, if not there look in BI folder if BI-exe is used, if not there either look in original RTW data folder.

Something similar is used in Civilization3: Conquest expansion.

Look particular conquest folder, if not there look for expansion folder, if not there look for earlier "play the world" expansion folder, if not there look original Civ3 folder.

[player1]

data files should be put in minimod\data folder, by the way, not just minimod folder.

[lt1956]

Besides that Custom Battles will not work with the -mod: switch You can copy info and make a small mod that will load but using all the data from the vanilla the custom battles dont work just like in rtw 1.2

This Problem is REAL Jerome.

Lt