What a muppet

**Tribesman** · 10-06-2005, 23:06

Any thought on Georges' speech today ?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/...http://script/

Some great insight there .
The government of Russia did not support Operation Iraqi Freedom, and yet militants killed more than 180 Russian schoolchildren in Beslan.

There you go absolute proof , Russia didn't invade Iraq , but still gets attacked .

Oh but they did invade Chechnya

**Proletariat** · 10-06-2005, 23:08

Pretty weak speech. So much for all the juicy 'details' we were enticed with. I'd love to know more about the 10 averted attacks. Oh well.

**Hurin_Rules** · 10-06-2005, 23:40

Did Bush really say that? (I couldn't get your link to work). If so, that is nothing less than nefarious.

**Tribesman** · 10-06-2005, 23:47

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/06/bush.transcript/
Try this time , if not go to the US news page and you will get the full transcript there , or a video of it if you want to see him in all his glory

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 10-07-2005, 00:11

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Any thought on Georges' speech today ?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/...http://script/

Some great insight there .
The government of Russia did not support Operation Iraqi Freedom, and yet militants killed more than 180 Russian schoolchildren in Beslan.

There you go absolute proof , Russia didn't invade Iraq , but still gets attacked .

Oh but they did invade Chechnya

Who attacked first?

Chechnya gained it's independance in 1991. One of the first thing they did was attack Ethnic russians in the province. So Russia tried to assassinate the Chechnan "President" but failed miserably. Chechnya wanted an Islamic state, they had pogroms against Christians and Jews. Russia tried to liberate them at first. The first Chechnan war was a complete failure, due to the idiocy of the Russian leadership and corruption. Way to many people died, Grozno was a complete failure, etc. So, a few years later, Russia gives up. Then, Chechnya, wanting their independant Islamic state, attacks Degostan (or somthing of the type), a Russian province. Russia roles in, wipes Chechnya off the map, and leaves.

You consider Chechnan Actions justified? Ever hear the story where the mother of a Russian soldier went to recover the body of her son. The Chechnans showed her a tape of him being beheaded, then sold his head and his body to her, seperatly.

Or maybe the one about the Priest held hostage by Chechnans. They told him to tell Russian troops to stop fighting. Instead, he blessed them. They murdered him.

Are these the actions of civilized people? The Chechans would line in the paths of tanks, looking unarmed. Not wanting to massacre civilians (worst mistake in Russian history), Russian tank commanders opened the hatches to ask them to move. They molotov cocktailed the tanks, wiping out over three armored columns.

Now, Chechnan rebels bomb apartment complexes, destroy schools, and hold entire theaters hostage. Real civilized. And real deserving of mercy.

**Tribesman** · 10-07-2005, 00:45

Well done Kaiser , and the link to Russian opposition to the Iraq war is ??????
You consider Chechnan Actions justified?
blah blah blah ...and what the hell would you know about it anyway ?
Don't even think to tell me about things that you know bugger all about

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 10-07-2005, 02:01

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well done Kaiser , and the link to Russian opposition to the Iraq war is ??????
You consider Chechnan Actions justified?
blah blah blah ...and what the hell would you know about it anyway ?
Don't even think to tell me about things that you know bugger all about

You were the one that linked them. See the post at the top of this thread, perhaps?

Besides, being as I know quite a few people from Russia, who have told me about the situation, in addition to my independant research, I daresay I know more about it than you. Thanks for the blatant, ignorant attacks by the way.

**Spetulhu** · 10-07-2005, 12:33

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

Besides, being as I know quite a few people from Russia, who have told me about the situation, in addition to my independant research, I daresay I know more about it than you.

The Russians have been trying to 'pacify' that particular corner of the world for centuries, on and off. I'd say the hatred runs quite deep on both sides by now. Finnish soldiers serving there in the 19th century couldn't understand why they were killing the local sheepherders, but the Czar said it was important.

**Templar Knight** · 10-07-2005, 13:05

It has been on-going since 1785 when the Chechens started waging a holy war against the Russians under Sheikh Mansur after Russian troops occupied the area.

**Redleg** · 10-07-2005, 02:06

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well done Kaiser , and the link to Russian opposition to the Iraq war is ??????
You consider Chechnan Actions justified?
blah blah blah ...and what the hell would you know about it anyway ?
Don't even think to tell me about things that you know bugger all about

Are we having problems coping today with the far right on the board?