No problem.
Just for you to know, I've studied much Japanese history. I even did one year of Japanese...
Glad to see the mod going well...
No problem.
Just for you to know, I've studied much Japanese history. I even did one year of Japanese...
Glad to see the mod going well...
Ja mata, TosaInu. You will forever be remembered.
Proud
Been to:
Swords Made of Letters - 1938. The war is looming in France - and Alexandre Reythier does not have much time left to protect his country. A novel set before the war.
A Painted Shield of Honour - 1313. Templar Knights in France are in grave danger. Can they be saved?
Thanks m8! All the information you can find will help us,so if you find something intresting please post it.
Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.
Great mod guys!
I was wondering if we could see more battle scenes, that one on the first page looked awesome
When I was a child
I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye.
I turned to look but it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The child is grown,
The dream is gone.
I have become comfortably numb...
Proud Supporter of the Gahzette
Thanks Ian! We well post some ingame scenes soon, just hang on mate.
Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.
Those two ashis were absolutely great!
Did I notice a little connection to Osprey Elite: The Samurai with the Late version? They look remarkably similar to the central figure of plate L.
Anyway, the early figure is my main target here.
I love them! Hara-ate and that is basically all. Detailed and very believeable. But I don't know if the spearpoint should be so triangular, a nice old Japanese spearblade (longer and more rectangular, like hte late version seems to have) would do wonders.
Btw kagemusha, I'm afraid I know very little about the various clans themselves. So I doubt I would be much help there.
I know what I expect any other person who is interested in the general time will know.
So all I can say about factionspecific troops would be something like:
Shimazu Teppo Samurai (think Yumi Samurai with guns instead)
Oda Musketeers (better equipped)
Takeda Red Devil Heavy Cavalry (lancers)
Shikoku Hirazamurai (yari ashis of very good quality belonging to Chosokabe)
A unit type I forgot to mention earlier was the Japanese policeforces (if you can call them that). They patrolled the cities, looking for drunken samurai and so on. They were armed in a peculiar way since they were generally of rather low status, and that their targets might provide important information if captured. So their weapons were the jitte, a sort of jitte-yari (think a long spear with a large jitte instead of the usual cross spearhead), spiked pole or sode-garami (many short curved spikes for trapping swords and gargments) and bolas. All carried swords, but only as a last resort weapon (most often a single katana, but at times they carried both katana and wakizashi, perhaps former samurai?). Their armour was in general quite good but cheap. Padded cloth underneath a leather breat- and backplate and an almost modern helmet (very similar to the helmets of the Low Country infantry of early WWII), but with the obvious difference that it was stamped from squarish plates so that it had rounded points to the front, back and sides.
Three destinctly named groups were charged with law and order, the Yoriki (Guards), the Doshin (policemen) and the Okappikki (patrolmen). It seems that the Doshin and Okappikki were the ones to actually go out and hunt down criminals, with the Doshin as a sort of reactionforce and the Okappikki as your general streetcop (though obviously less benevolent). The Yoriki are unclear as to what their job really was, but it seems they were much like riotpolice and charged with keeping crowds down.
Since these are more official than the Otokodate they should perhaps be a sort of high level Town Watch, obtained at a certain castle-level.
Though I fully understand that their odd equipment might make them rather impractical to implement.
You may not care about war, but war cares about you!
Thanks Kraxis and Neongod! Kraxis about the "police" forces,you are right that those would be hard to put in the game and since we will have the core of the Clans armies stationed in the castles,i dont think we will put them in the game.The Naginata samurais you mentioned earlier will be in the game.We will make a Naginata samurai unit which will be only available in the early phase of the game since they were a kind of relic from earlier times in Sengoku Jidai period.ps.dont worry about the spear points those you see are the basic ones from Bi´s shieldwall formation.They will have the correct yari spearheads when they are finished.
Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.
Nagae Yari Ashigaru:
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Fair enough...Originally Posted by kagemusha
But everything I have found on the Hatamoto-yakko were that they were late units. Though I understand that they might fit better into the early setting.
Nagae???
Anyway those are very well equipped. Better formed lines and they would be equivalent to Hirazamurai.
Any news on the Chugen or Shimazu Teppo Samurai?
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Nagae yari=Longer yari spears,almost like pikes.Dont mind the spears yet because those are still under construction. We havent yet decided but the Hatamoto-yakko will be a special unit for one of the more traditional clans.
And you can guess,what clan is going to get the Hirazamurai.
Last edited by Kagemusha; 10-21-2005 at 13:24.
Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.
Ahh... I don't know Japanese so a lot of stuff simply passes me by.Originally Posted by kagemusha
Hirazamurai for Oda and Chosokabe?
Hatamoto-yakko for Mori, Uesugi, Hojo, Asai and Hosokawa? Or even the Ashikaga... GAH! It just seems that there are so many traditionalists.
Last edited by Kraxis; 10-21-2005 at 13:37.
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And here a some buildings for a chance Made by PROMETHEUS :
Temple
city gate level 3
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You are pretty much right about the Hirazamurai though the Odas and Chosokabes may vary,becouse im under the impression that the Chosokabes were better trained against infantry and Odas were more in the anticavalry role,since they had the longest spears compared to any other clan.Originally Posted by Kraxis
About the Hatamoto-yakko,i will tell you guys when its decided.The main plan is that every clan have somekind of special unit,but there will be regional special units aswell.The Ashikaga is under the axe right now becouse we are using Bi.There might be a emerging faction replacing them but im not going to tell more abiut it yet.
Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.
Give my regard to PRO... Those are nice buildings.
I have pretty much gathered the same from the Chosokabe. Their enemies were not monted in any large degree, while Oda had the Takeda nearby and several other large clans with cavalry on their borders.
But I will stress that the real Hirazamurai were the prefessional late Ashis, men that had earned their increase in status. They were men that could almost fight Samurai evenly.
You may not care about war, but war cares about you!
Thanks Kraxis! We will put them in the later period.
Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.
And then something very beutifull and deadly:the work on Samurai.
Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.
Te Yari Samurai by PROMETHEUS:
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Kage the gate u posted is outdated and wont be used , this is instead actual .....
Himenji castle....
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I dont mind this trade Prome.Not at all m8!
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And some structures ingame .....
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Sweet.
"The facts of history cannot be purely objective, since they become facts of history only in virtue of the significance attached to them by the historian." E.H. Carr
Lovely!Originally Posted by kagemusha
Btw, isn't that catles a bit... ehm heavy on our systems? It is damn detailed.
Can you put units into it or is it like the Imperial Palace?
You may not care about war, but war cares about you!
Kraxis.The Himenji model is one of the main Donjon,so yes it will be like imperial palace.
Last edited by Kagemusha; 10-22-2005 at 15:02.
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The castle isnt more detailed than the imperial palace lod level one , has some more poligons yes but actually arrives to 3000 , the normal unit model in RTW has around 700 polys ..... anyway counting that I will delete much of the other houses couse arent needed in japanese castles there will be no reason for a lag becouse there will be actually less poligons in sieges than normal RTW.....
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A Shogun Banner.....
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Samurais with another skin:
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Naginata Samurai ...
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Ingame pic.....
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Ahh, the second Te Yari Samirai are more or less just more red?
While I really like the Naginatas, I still think they are to long (I suppose the shape is a bit confined by the engine?). A wellknown maneuver with the Ngainata was the 'windmill'... Quite obvious what that does, but these Nags are simply too long for that.
Btw, are these the Hatamoto-yakko? Or 'just' plain Naginata Samuai?
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What are Hatamoto-yakko?Originally Posted by Kraxis
I just copied the osprey naginata Samurai .....
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