Carthage

[conon394]

Red Harvest

[QUOTE] I've heard it all before. It's called revisionist history...by the Romans.[/QOUTE]

I don’t know that it does, it seems to me you are assuming the Ebro treaty was reciprocal. As far I as I can see Rome asked for and received an assurance from the Hasdrubal that he had no interests north of the Ebro (I would suspect mostly on behalf of their firm ally Massilia), they never offered any balanced assurance that they had no interest south of it. In any case, it was clearly an agreement of convenience; Hasdrubal seems to have been acting in a quasi-independent capacity since the Carthaginian government later claimed the undertaking was not even binding on them.

Carthage was to some extent burned by a dangerous game of bait and switch; the home government seems to have largely ignored the Barca’s Spanish Empire as long as the profits were rolling in (and perhaps slept better at night thinking about the large Barca professional army that was comfortably far away, but near enough to Rome). In the end they failed to really keep a close eye on (or any real means to check or influence) the Barca’s; would they precipitate a conflict with Rome or offer up unilateral promises.

[edyzmedieval]

Too bad Hannibal hadn't smacked the Romans....

Thanks BKS for the recommendation.

[Rosacrux redux]

Had he, you wouldn't have the basis to create a "Byzantium Total War" mod

Considering the ties of the (Greek) Byzantium with Rome, I'd say you most probably would be doing a "Tyre: Total War" modification

[edyzmedieval]

Rosacrux,

My first idea was Carthage:Total War, but I saw that already there's one.
So, I went to Byzantium

Still, the Byzantines are my favourites.

But the Carthaginians really have an impressive history.