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Quote Originally Posted by Soulforged
It can be reflected in law, but are the laws the measure of good and bad, not. There's absolutelly no way to make objective rules for morality.
Can you point to any segment of society that best characterize "good" and "evil" at that moment in time socially, that best mirror its inhabitants? It's the law.

Ok, but why do you call it illusion? In any case there's exceptions, a man can force his system to not eat, he'll die but he can do it.
You can do it, but that's part of the system, regardless. You simply took out your dna out of the gene pool. Which makes sense because that meant the individual wasn't fit in the system (which say, you have to eat these "food"). Survival of the fittest, remember?

That's a very positive and wrong view of the human. The human has a will, wich don't necesarilly comes from survival.
If you look at your body, it's designed for survival here on earth, that's all.

I ate paper some time, by my own decesion. DNA doesn't determine choices, just tendences.
How many times have you eaten paper before? Is it a habit? The thing is, eating paper is a waste since your body gets no energy from it. That's why it doesn't taste good.

So you see the human as just another animal.
Humans are the most evolved and adapted, currently sitting at the top of the food chain.

The difference is exactly that freedom that you seem to ignore. If I've a piece of bread and in the other hand a piece of chocolat and I decide to eat chocolate today and bread tomorrow there's a choice. If I decide to eat paper, there's a choice.
Bread and Chocolate are fine according to your DNA. But I'll never see you say I've eaten 'my watch and computer' today.

That's why I think that you're trying to discuss free will, wich is discussable, but material freedom (ie the perceptible possibility of election) is not discussable it's out there and it's evident. The human is way beyond the simple instinct, the human works with the mind.
Society is just part of evolution that's all. Just look at those people on New Orleans, it's one for himself, even the cops were only concerned for themselves. Society is generally safe that's why those instinctive nature doesn't flare up.

When you die, you never pass your brain, you only pass your genes to your progeny, because the brain is only peripheral.