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    Quote Originally Posted by Quietus
    Can you point to any segment of society that best characterize "good" and "evil" at that moment in time socially, that best mirror its inhabitants? It's the law.
    Ok I'll give you that, though you missed my point over and over. My point is that law is not the representation of good and bad is only a pragmatic rule that tries to achieve that, the good and bad, or a simple neutral disposition (you'll see lots of them in my code for example). But continue with your view it's not totally alien if you want it. I thought you'll iniciate some discussion over more important topics like the free will, that hardly will be decided here, but at least is not a trivial subject of semantics.
    You can do it, but that's part of the system, regardless. You simply took out your dna out of the gene pool. Which makes sense because that meant the individual wasn't fit in the system (which say, you have to eat these "food"). Survival of the fittest, remember?
    Wait, what do you mean with taking my dna out of the gene pool:1- the genes are in the DNA, so it will be the other way around. 2- You cannot take the gene of the pool, if you could then your freedom will be there...So you just prooved my point (wich in any case has the proof of many more phylosophers with much more voice than I)
    If you look at your body, it's designed for survival here on earth, that's all.
    Ok, but how does that makes all other non-survival oriented things and illusion?
    How many times have you eaten paper before? Is it a habit? The thing is, eating paper is a waste since your body gets no energy from it. That's why it doesn't taste good.
    I eat paper many times as a satanic ritual for the archienemy of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, the Italian Fork .
    That's not my point you say it's an illusion because all tends to survival I point out that you're wrong because there are many conducts with certain complexity were the human forgets all about his survival or that of the species. Also I clearly stated that the DNA generates tendences, not absolutes, you still make decissions. If I can decide one or three times, it doesn't matter, it's not the essence of the discussion.
    Humans are the most evolved and adapted, currently sitting at the top of the food chain.
    We're far from animals our "soul" or "mind" makes us of another category. Reducing all process of society and the human in society to simple positivism has been already prooved wrong, that's why social sciences exists.
    Bread and Chocolate are fine according to your DNA. But I'll never see you say I've eaten 'my watch and computer' today.
    No but I can decide to eat chocolate or bread...
    Society is just part of evolution that's all. Just look at those people on New Orleans, it's one for himself, even the cops were only concerned for themselves. Society is generally safe that's why those instinctive nature doesn't flare up.
    You're talking about Social Darwinism? Ok this is again pure positivism applied to the complex relations and events of society. Not very good that's because all social scientists use hermeneutics to investigate all this.
    Last edited by Soulforged; 10-09-2005 at 04:50.
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