Whats worse Booze or Weed?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Which do you think is worse for the individual and society and why Pot or Alcohol?

[Kanamori]

I can never quite picture Gawain taking some hits w/o chuckling to myself...

[Kanamori]

I can handle them... take 'em away from everyone else and leave it to those who are responsible, like me



And, don't you think bud every day is a little excessive, Gawain? See, we've already found someone who can't handle it.

[Zalmoxis]

Weed, as you say, can be used to help leachemia patients, while alcohol does things only alcohol can do, both as bad.

[monkian]

Booze is the worst everytime.

It can make people very violent - we all know this to be a fact - I've been beaten up many a time by pissed up wankers. Never felt violent or seen anyone being violent or destructive under the effect of weed.


Alcohol is also alot easier to consume even when you've had too much - you can't skin up if you've smoked or eaten too much weed.

Plus state funded growth of Marijuana can produce alot more than just delicious bundles of smoking fun.

[Navaros]

Booze is worse but both of them are disgusting and pointless vices which no intelligent form of life should ever indulge in.

Best thing to do: universal ban on both and ridiculously-long prison sentences for anyone who uses them after the ban.

[monkian]

Booze is worse but both of them are disgusting and pointless vices which no intelligent form of life should ever indulge in.

Best thing to do: universal ban on both and ridiculously-long prison sentences for anyone who uses them after the ban.

Now I;d keep weed but then ban booze and religion. Alcohol and relgion have given people the exuse to cause alot more harm and suffering than weed.

[InsaneApache]

Booze is worse but both of them are disgusting and pointless vices which no intelligent form of life should ever indulge in.

Best thing to do: universal ban on both and ridiculously-long prison sentences for anyone who uses them after the ban.

Wow don't sit on the fence....tell us what you really think!!!

On topic:

Booze is far worse. It is addictive, spliff aint. Never mind the effects an alcoholic can have on their family and friends.....I've never had a day off work 'cos I had too much toke the night before, but I have if I've been to a party/wedding/ladsniteout and had 'one over the odds'.

[doc_bean]

Booze is worse, it's the one I indulge in though, and I fear I might have to pay the price some day soon...

[InsaneApache]

But Doc you live in a country famed for it's beer , amongst other things

[Al Khalifah]

The sheer number of patients in my local mental-health hospital suffering from cannabis related break downs and other problems stemming from its missuse is testament to only one thing:

Cannabis and alcohol, like all drugs, supplements, vitamins, food groups etc taken by humans if used incorrectly or in excess will cause serious harm that can often result in lasting damage, both to yourself and society. Cannabis can be addictive if it is used as an escape.

While actual fatalities resulting directly from cannabis use would be much lower (as a percentage of its total use), the number of people suffering from serious side-effects will be just as high. Also worth pointing out is that most people choose to smoke weed, which can cause lung-cancer and bronchitis and the tobacco taken in parallel can cause heart disease and significantly shorten life expectancy. It is also addictive and people can become psycologically addicted to weed, although they actually only crave the tobacco.

That said, taken in moderation and in groups (and never as an escape) it is just as safe as many forms of abuse we put our bodies through. Remember, coffee, vitamin supplements, energy drinks, saturated fats are harmful too but no one gones crazy over their use.

[Duke Malcolm]

While some say that alcohol makes people aggressive, people here are violent whether or not they have been drinking. Cannabis, however, is more anti-social (from what I've seen), because people generally sit in and toke away, and non-tokers sit around waiting for something interesting to happen. Cannabis is addictive, though; you should have seen my friend last week after not having any for a few days...

[Del Arroyo]

Personally I feel that weed is worse. Alcohol is a short vacation from the stress of major daily activities-- weed IS a major daily activity.

And while alcohol loosens you up and facilitates social interaction, weed shuts you up and makes you paranoid. Yes, if you're an experienced pot-head you will probably be able to function anyway, but the fact remains that weed turns you inward-- so what's the point?

And when you're high, what do you do?? You sit, you smoke some more, and you laugh at stupid stuff. That's it. Personally I feel that people who get their kicks from weed are missing out on life. And I know that weed doesn't sap everyone's ambition but there is a connection there.

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Now it is true, the worst case scenarios for alcohol are more serious-- but is that how we should be judging things? Based on the worst that could happen?

The fact that other people might be stupid or weak with alcohol won't stop me from having beer or wine with my meal or getting drunk and going dancing once in a while. And getting stoned, doing nothing, and feeling the haze for three days afterwards, no matter how low the risk, just doesn't appeal to me.

But if weed's your thing then more power to you no hate here.

DA

[monkian]

Im not sure why you think that the recreational use of marijuana is a 'major daily activity' anymore than recreational drinking.

I dont personally sit at home doing mothing but smoke. I may have a joint whislt playing Total War but then Im far more likely to have a glass of wine or a can of beer.

If I do smoke alot of marijuana then its with other smokers - and its a very social thing. There may be 'non smoker's' among us but then there are often 'non drinkers' with me when I go to the pub and Im sure they dont find us drunken rabble that interesting when they are sober.

And Alcholism is physically addictive - there are physical side affects when a constant abuser is deprived of it.

Cannabis is addictive, though; you should have seen my friend last week after not having any for a few days..

He probably has an addictive personality. If alcohol was illeagal or not freely avaliable then Im sure you'd see plenty of peope in the street or at work acting rather stressed out.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I would say alcohol is probably worse, due to the violence. However, I really enjoy a nice cold beer, so I voted pot.

Also, I find persistent stoners really annoying to hang around with. A schoolmate of mine who smokes a lot just walks around in a daze-he's never got any energy.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

I know a family who just lost their house because they couldn't afford their mortgage and their heavy pot habit.

The parents do little but smoke pot and go to work and one of their kids (who is a heavy heavy pot smoker) just sits in his room and plays video games and gets high all day like he has for the past 8 years.

They all turn in to utter gits when they can't get their fix.

So, alcohol means you can do utterly retarded stuff and pot can make you smoke your life away.


Surely it's just a matter of keeping things in proportion for both.

[DemonArchangel]

I would have to say weed.

I cook with alcohol!

[Fragony]

Weed isn't very addictive. Alcohol is a whole lot worse.

[Kraxis]

You can cook with weed too...

Anyway, I said both.
As far as I know you can only die from an alcohol overdose, not a THC (active ingredient) overdose. At least one that is selfinduced.

Having tried both I can tell you this much, weed is fun, but it soon gets old (I can't be bothered with it now), and it is hard to enjoy it is small doses (like a single glass of wine or beer, or even a scotch).
But to say it is the entire activity of the day is to equate it to the drunkards on the street. Yes, that is so with some, just like it is so with the drunkards. But are all who drink alcohol addicted? I severely doubt it. I can go weeks even months without drinking any alcohol, but I do drink it and I get drunk too. Perhaps more previously than now.

Both can be enjoyed without making them a problem for the person. Trouble comes if the person has nothing to do, besides indulging in these substances. We can see the effects of repeated abuse of alcohol on our streets quite often, but seldomly weed. But of course both can send people sprawling on the streets (lost house and so on).
Here alcohol wins because it is cheaper due to being legal. If weed was legal it would actually be cheaper than most alcohol.

[monkian]

I know a family who just lost their house because they couldn't afford their mortgage and their heavy pot habit.

The parents do little but smoke pot and go to work and one of their kids (who is a heavy heavy pot smoker) just sits in his room and plays video games and gets high all day like he has for the past 8 years.

*cough* rubbish*cough*

[Fragony]

*cough* rubbish*cough*

Ya, pot isn't even physically addictive. Seems to me that family had other hobby's.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

I reckon psychological dependence works.

I suppose nobody else knows stoners who spend all their money and time on getting high and doing nothing else.

*cough* you don't know them *cough*

[edyzmedieval]

Both are crack. They suck big time.

[ah_dut]

I've seen stoned people and I've seen smashed people, I'd rather hang around with the stoners but in excess both are bad...simple eh? As to which one's worse? I have no idea. I tend to see more smashed people then stoners. Though I will say house parties wouldn't be as fun without drunk idiots to laugh at (I'm a teetotaller because I find I seem to be allergic to alchohol)

[Fragony]

I reckon psychological dependence works.

In that case there are probably people that got thrown out of their houses for their coffee addiction.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

coffee is somewhat cheaper than pot

[Fragony]

coffee is somewhat cheaper than pot

And more addictive as well.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Do any of you know why most people check themselves into a rehab center for addiction. Its not for alcohol or pot or coke or even herion. Its for sex. The most addictive thing on the planet.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

anyway, true story, sure there were a few more factors involved than pot but the ridiculously heavy pot consumption was their major extravagance and the person in charge of the finances didn't tell anybody else that they weren't in the best situation and so they continued to spend loads of money on the cannabis.

I don't know if they could be described as addicted though. They sure are moody without it.

[Fragony]

anyway, true story, sure there were a few more factors involved than pot but the ridiculously heavy pot consumption was their major extravagance and the person in charge of the finances didn't tell anybody else that they weren't in the best situation and so they continued to spend loads of money on the cannabis.

I don't know if they could be described as addicted though. They sure are moody without it.

Bit impolite of me to question your story. The effect of the drug tends to make people a bit ez when it comes to priorities. But in itselve it is pretty harmless; certainly not as damaging as alcohol.

edit, same as on ttlg or frag confused.