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Pyrros 19:48 30/10/05

"Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres, quarum unam incolunt Belgae, aliam Aquitani, tertiam qui ipsorum lingua Celtae, nostra Galli appellantur"

Ranika 22:51 30/10/05

This is an ancient, mistaken perception by a foreign people; the Belgae were clearly not Gauls. They were Celts though. However, they had their own gods, their own clothing, rituals, structures, used different types of shields, weapons of a different shape (their swords are often a bit shorter due to less iron), and sometimes even still used axes in combat (most Celts had abandoned axes in favor of swords and spears). They decorated their objects with different styles of art, more similar to what many Britons used, as well as some Germanic forms in eastern Belgica. So no, they are not 'Gauls', except from the Roman perception (which is hardly an enlightened, thorough view of Celtic peoples). They are, today, viewed rightfully as their own Celtic sub-culture, just like midland Britons and the like. For the whole of the period, they were pretty disassociated with Gauls (though they were close to Gallic-Britons at different times). They did share a common language with Gauls, but it's improper to call them 'Gauls'; they were a collection of their own tribes that often aligned themselves against Gauls in an attempt for a land-grab to expand their own land control for their multitude of Belgic tribes.

Seleukus I Nicator 23:28 30/10/05

Germanics units. I stick with the majority

BTW my hands getting very bloody itchy

Dagobert II 01:48 31/10/05

I am going to hope they are Visigoths. They are
of the period //not celtic by ethnicity, but certainly
christian...

Steppe Merc 01:51 31/10/05

Originally Posted by Dagobert II:
I am going to hope they are Visigoths. They are
of the period //not celtic by ethnicity, but certainly
christian...

Um...

Ypoknons 01:54 31/10/05

For 90% of EB's timeline there was no Christianity, mate.

Dagobert II 02:01 31/10/05

Sorry gentlemen;

I was looking at the wrong screenshot, and did not catch the 11 pages of relplies... I'll rexamine the thread and provide an educated guess...

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Ranika 02:01 31/10/05

90%? 100%; Christianity didn't exist by 14 AD. Jesus would still be a teenager, and was still being educated.

QwertyMIDX 02:28 31/10/05

Indeed, Jesus didn't die/assend until between 27 and 36 AD. In 14 AD he would be between 14 and 20.

the_handsome_viking 02:59 31/10/05

Originally Posted by Ranika:
Belgae are Celts, just not Gauls (though they often do get lumped in with Gauls, they're a seperate Celtic culture).

so they were a purely celtic people with no germanic influence of ancestry?

Mouzafphaerre 03:07 31/10/05

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Belgae: Kelts, Germans or something else?
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the_handsome_viking 03:33 31/10/05

yes yes I see I see.

Well I'll tell you what though, they sure as hell arent Nubian spearmen.

Pyrros 11:46 31/10/05

Originally Posted by Ranika:
This is an ancient, mistaken perception by a foreign people; the Belgae were clearly not Gauls. They were Celts though. However, they had their own gods, their own clothing, rituals, structures, used different types of shields, weapons of a different shape (their swords are often a bit shorter due to less iron), and sometimes even still used axes in combat (most Celts had abandoned axes in favor of swords and spears). They decorated their objects with different styles of art, more similar to what many Britons used, as well as some Germanic forms in eastern Belgica. So no, they are not 'Gauls', except from the Roman perception (which is hardly an enlightened, thorough view of Celtic peoples). They are, today, viewed rightfully as their own Celtic sub-culture, just like midland Britons and the like. For the whole of the period, they were pretty disassociated with Gauls (though they were close to Gallic-Britons at different times). They did share a common language with Gauls, but it's improper to call them 'Gauls'; they were a collection of their own tribes that often aligned themselves against Gauls in an attempt for a land-grab to expand their own land control for their multitude of Belgic tribes.

I know how accurate Ceasar can be, I was only

(and couldn't resist to write it, since I had to learn it

). Still you are Celtic expert for me, but I'll resist temptation of making another Gaul-orientated thread

BTW, now I'll probably join EB team and I'm making some stuff for you, so I'll delay my Celtic reply little longer. But the books are waiting

tk-421 05:20 04/11/05

Are we anywhere close? Are you going to tell us what it is?

khelvan 06:19 04/11/05

These are the Frámêhárjōz, or Spear Warriors, who formed the bulk of any Germanic force and were very versatile warriors. They are found throughout the Germanic areas as rebels and are available to the Sweboz.

Next up we have something that shouldn't be hard to guess culturally, but specifically, we'll see who comes close:

Zero1 06:26 04/11/05

Celtiberian or Brythonic swordsmen of somekind?

antiochus epiphanes 06:46 04/11/05

getai or sarmatian that is my guess

GoreBag 06:46 04/11/05

The trousers shout 'Gaul', and the armour looks pretty extravagant, but the facepaint tells me otherwise. Most Gauls didn't paint their faces. So I'll go with a Briton of some kind, probably one of those 'Gallic Britons'. Medium sword-wielding infantry.

Artabrii 08:06 04/11/05

I think this warrior is from Britania, He cant be a celtiberian warrior because He use war paintings.

This unit has been made by Aymar?
It`s a beatiful unit :)

Ianofsmeg16 08:30 04/11/05

Considering the link between Brittania (Facepaint etc) and Gaul (the trousers) i think it's a Belgae swordsmen, recruitable for Brittannia

Birka Viking 11:16 04/11/05

I think it's a Iberian unit.Very nice skin

the_handsome_viking 20:08 04/11/05

no matter what faction that unit belongs to, it can't be denied that those are some really fancy trousers.

Spendios 22:06 04/11/05

The paints on the face make me think he comes from the British Isles. But he has a strange armour who look iberian...
An ibero-british ?

Seleukus I Nicator 23:44 04/11/05

Erm just because I tried to guess for other units ill try to guess for this one.
Im not really good at Barbarian units.
This guy looks like a barbarian from somewhere west. I have no idea what tribe, what specific region, but I know he is not Hypaspist
Good looking skin though.

Ranika 23:50 04/11/05

Originally Posted by ian_of_smeg16:
Considering the link between Brittania (Facepaint etc) and Gaul (the trousers) i think it's a Belgae swordsmen, recruitable for Brittannia

I don't normally comment much on these, but this comment confuses me; what about the trousers? Britons wore trousers too, and wore plaid and stripes and such on them (and in rare cases checks, but those were more Gallic). Sorry, but this comment just confuses me.

tk-421 01:08 05/11/05

I say that it is some sort of elite british swordsman. The shield and armor are very similar to the Calawre unit shown in the Casse preview.

the_handsome_viking 08:47 05/11/05

In the Casse preview it stated that scale mail at one point became the primary armor of the britons or something to that extent, so this swordsman face paint and armor choice all seems very british.

I'm guessing casse elite swordsman.

Mr Jones 07:56 08/11/05

i now think it is a casse captain on foot, or a unit officer. or even a general on foot if you have these.

Dooz 11:04 08/11/05

I'd say that is a unit of the Badassitites, which with whom I shall kill many a foe........

Dago 16:45 08/11/05

This is a briton warrior.I think that it is an elite unit. Maybe he`s a champion or something like that?

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