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    Alrighty, it is as of quite some time a historical fact that women did hold their place in Military Affairs some exemples:


    Historical references to women fighting -
    Prehistory and the Ancient World
    Ancient warrior queens included Vishpla, Aahhotep I, Zabibi, Samsi, Tomyris, Himoko, Jingo Kogo, Mavia, Saimei and Dihya al-Kahina. There are depictions of Hittite women warriors dating from 1300 BC. The Bible describes the Judge, Deborah, as a war leader and the Greeks had legends of the Amazons which may have been based upon Scythians or women from Turkey or Libya. Vietnamese rebels included Trung Trac, Trung Nhi, Tran Thi Doan, Phung Thi Chinh and Trieu Thi Trinh. Fa Mulan fought in the Chinese army.
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    Celtic and Roman
    Roman gladiatorial shows included "women of rank" in 63 AD. There was also a female chariot fighter competing against men. Women gladiators were described again in 88 AD. Women were members of the venatores, (gladiators who fought wild animals in the Roman arena). Emperor Alexander Severus issued an edict prohibiting women combatants in the arena in 200 AD.
    A display of captured enemies in the 3rd Century included several women warriors.

    Legendary Celtic women warriors included Medb (Maeve) of Ireland, Aife (Aoife) of Alba (Scotland), and Queen Scathach of Skye.
    The Romans in Britain fought against Queen Boadicea (or Bodiecia, Bouddica, Voadica, Voada) of the Iceni in 61AD, but they were allies to Queen Cartimandua of the Briganties in a war against her consort in 43AD.
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    Vikings and Saxons
    An English Saxon Princess led an invasion of Jutland in the 6th Century. In the 8th Century Queen Aethelburgh destroyed Taunton. In the 9th Century Queen Thyra of Denmark led her army against the Germans.
    In the 10th Century Aethelflaed, Lady of Mercia led troops against the Vikings and Olga of Russia ended a revolt in which her husband had died.

    The Viking Sagas and Saxo Grammaticus' "History of the Danes" mention many warrior women. Hetha, Visna and Vebiorg led companies of the Danish army. Sela and Alvid were pirates. Stikla ran away from home to become a warrior. Rusilla fought against her brother for the throne. Gurith took part in a battle to help her son. Freydis Eiriksdottir, Auðr and Þórdis all used weapons against their enemies.
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    11th Century
    Aristocratic ladies who led troops in seige and battle included Emma Countess of Norfolk, Matilda Countess of Tuscany (and her mother), Sichelgaita Princess of Lombardy, Urraca Queen of Aragon, and Teresa of Portugal.
    Matilda of Ramsbury (mistress of the Bishop of Salisbury) held the Bishop's Castle in his absence.
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    12th Century
    Aristocratic ladies who led troops in seige and battle included Alrude Countess of Bertinoro, Eleanor of Castile, Queen Urraca of Aragon, Marguerite de Provence, Florine of Denmark and Berengaria of Navarre, Queen Tamara of Georgia and the Empress Maud (also known as Matilda, Empress of Germany, Countess of Anjou, Domina Anglorum, Lady of the English, Matilda Augusta and Matilda the Good)
    Maude de Valerie was a Welsh revolutionary.
    Women took part in the Crusades in the armies of Emperor Conrad and William Count of Poitiers in spite of a papal bull forbidding them to do so.
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    13th Century
    Nicola de la Haye, daughter of the castellan of Lincoln defended the town against several raids and was made sheriff of Lincolnshire in 1216.
    Jeanne of Navarre led her army against that of the Count de Bar.
    Ladies were admitted to the Chivalric Order of the Dragon, The Order of St Anthony in Hainault and the Order of the Garter.
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    14th Century:
    Isobel MacDuff Countess of Buchan, Jeanne de Danpierre Countess de Montfort (also known as Jane, Countess of Montfort), Isabelle of England, Christian Lady Bruce, Marjory Bruce, Mary Bruce, Phillipa of Hainault, Lady Agnes Randolph (also known as Black Agnes), Agnes Hotot of Dudley, Adelaide Ponthiey, Jeanne de Belleville, Margaret of Denmark
    Ladies were admitted to the Chivalric Order of the Dragon, The Order of St Anthony in Hainault and the Order of the Garter.
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    15th Century
    Margaret of Denmark, Jacqueline of Bavaria (Countess of Holland, Hainault and Zealand), Jehanne la Pucelle (better known as Joan of Arc), Isabella of Lorraine, Maire o Ciaragain, Isabella I of Castile. The Bridport muster roll (a list of ordinary citizens called up for a battle) of 1457 lists Alis Gare, Alis Hammel, Sally Pens, "Condefer Wife" and Margaret Athyn, three of these women brought their own weapons and armour with them.
    Ladies were admitted to the Chivalric Order of the Dragon, The Order of St Anthony in Hainault and the Order of the Garter.
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    16th Century
    Graine Ni Maille (also known as Grace O'Malley) was an Irish pirate. A group of 350 girls defended fortifications in Paris. Ameliane du Puget led a troop of women in Marseilles. Beatriz de Pardes and María de Estrada fought with the Conquistadors in the New World. Lilliard led the Scots into battle against the English. Isabella I of Castile led her army. Marguerite Delaye and Captain Mary Ambree fought in battles. Explorers in South America reported seeing native women leading warbands.
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    17th Century
    Kit Cavanagh (also known as "Mother Ross") started her military career disguised as a man, but later fought open;y as a woman soldier. Mme de Saint Baslemont de Neuville and La Maupin, as well as two unnamed aristocratic sisters fought duels. Other notable women included Lady Ann Cummingham, Blanche the Countess of Arundel, Brilliana the Countess of Harley, Alyona of Russia, Anne Chamberlyne and Anne Marie Louise d'Orleans Montpensier.
    During the English Civil War ordinary women frequently reloaded guns, as well as carrying powder and bullets to the front during battles. The Scots army which marched on Newcastle in 1644 is reported to have included women regular soldiers.
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    18th Century
    Women involved in the Jacobite Rising in Scotland in 1745-6 included Jean (Jenny) Cameron, Lady Anne Macintosh, Lady Margaret Oglivy, Margaret Murray and Lady Lude.
    Women soldiers included Ann Mills, Phoebe Hessel, Virginie Ghesquiere, Angelique Brulon, Margaret Catchpole, Olympe de Gouges, Rose Lacombe, Theroigne de Mericourt, Mademoiselle de la Rochefoucalt, Jemima Warner and Hannah Snell
    Duellists included Mademoiselle La Maupin, Mademoiselle de Guignes, Mademoiselle d'Aiguillon, Mademoiselle Leverrier, Lady Almeria Braddock, Mrs Elphinstone, Comptesse de Polignac and Marquise de Nesle.
    Catherine the Great of Russia led her army in several campaigns.
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    19th Century:
    Women soldiers and rebels included Augustina the "Maid of Saragossa", Marie Schellinck, Gertrudis Bocanegra, Elizabeth Hatzler, Dr "James" Barry, Mary Ann Riley, Ann Hopping, Jane Townshend, Louisa Battistati, Clemence Louise Michel, Sylvia Mariotti.
    Duels were fought by many women including Princess Pauline Metternich, Countess Kilmannsegg, Lady Almeria Braddock and a Mrs Elphinstone.
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    20th Century:
    Increasingly accurate records and improved communications mean that many more women are recorded as regular troops, pilots, rebels, partisans, martial artists etc.
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    Warrior Women in Scotland
    These include the Celts, Aife of Alba and Scathach of Skye.
    Isabelle of England: (A.D. 1285?-1313?) took up arms against her husband and she was forced to flee to Scotland by Edward III.
    In 1297 the Countess of Ross led her own troops during William Wallace and Andrew de Moray's battles with the English.
    Isobel MacDuff, Countess of Buchan (1296-1358) fought for Robert de Bruce.
    Christian, Lady Bruce defended Kildrummy Castle from the English during the Wars of Independence.
    During the same war, the widow of David of Strathbogie defended the island fortress of Lochindorb against three thousand Scots.
    Lady Agnes Randolph (1300?-1369?), known as Black Agnes, fought for de Bruce. In 1334, she successfully held her castle at Dunbar against the besieging forces of England's earl of Salisbury for over five months.
    Phillipa of Hainault, Queen of Edward III, led twelve thousand soldiers against invading Scots in 1346 and captured their king, David Bruce.
    In 1545, Lilliard led the Scots at the Battle of Ancrum.
    The Scots army which marched on Newcastle in 1644 during the English Civil War is reported to have included women regular soldiers.
    Jean (Jenny) Cameron, Lady Anne Macintosh, Lady Margaret Oglivy, Margaret Murray and Lady Lude were all involved in the Jacobite Rising in Scotland in 1745-6.
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    Laws forbidding women to fight:
    These provide evidence that women were definitely fighting immediately before each law was passed, and probably in reasonably large numbers, otherwise there'd be no need for the law. Also, the fact that a law exists doesn't mean that it is universally obeyed, or that those disobeying it would be social outcasts. (consider: traffic laws such as speed limits and parking restrictions, dog licencing in the UK, pirate videos and computer software, and so on)

    Emperor Alexander Severus issued an edict prohibiting women combatants in the arena in 200 AD
    Women were barred from military participation in a law passed at the synod of Druim Ceat in 590 A.D. The law proved to be unenforceable when the women warriors refused to lay down their arms.
    Papal Bull of 1189 prohibited women from joining the Third Crusade
    In 1644 King Charles issued a proclamation banning women who were with the armies during the English Civil War from wearing men's clothing.
    In 1795 the French revolutionary government ordered Frenchwomen to return to their homes and prohibited them from attending political meetings, or gathering in groups of more than five.
    Women were ordered out of the front lines of the Israeli Army by David Ben Gurion in 1950 (the last one left in the mid 1960s)
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    For the high medieval period, Megan McLaughlin's "The woman warrior: gender, warfare and society in medieval Europe", Women's Studies, 17 (1990): 193-209, has become the standard introduction. You might also want to see David Hay (that's me), “Canon Laws regarding Female Military Commanders up to the Time of Gratian: Some Texts and their Historical Contexts,” in ‘A Great Effusion of Blood?’: Interpreting Medieval Violence, eds. Mark Meyerson et al. (University of Toronto Press, 2004), 287-313. I've also got a book on Matilda of Canossa/Tuscany (mentioned by the original poster) coming out with Manchester University Press next year, tentatively entitled, "The Military Leadership of Matilda of Canossa, 1046-1115".

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    Women disguised as men appeared several times on American Civil War battlefields. In several battles I've read of surgeons noting on the field that a soldier who had been ripped apart by artillery was actually female.
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    Very Nice,

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    I distinctly recall at least two very similar incidents of female soldiers being killed on ACW fields. I can't recall what the 2nd was, but the 1st I remember reading was during General Crook's expedition against the Virginia and Tenn. Railroad that burned the New River Bridge after defeating the rebels at Cloyd's Mountain. During the artillery duel across the New River Bridge, Col. Rutherford B. Hayes (yes, the future President) ordered some dismounted cavalry troopers to take cover. One from the 5th West Virginia Cav. refused, saying "he" would take cover when Hayes dismounted and did the same. Hayes repeated the order and again the soldier refused. Before Hayes could say anything else, an exploding shell killed the private. Dr. J.T. Webb discovered the soldier was a woman when he examined the body. Confederate neighbors had killed her father and brother, so she enlisted as a man to take revenge. I don't have a name for her unfortunately.

    (This anecdote came from The Battle of Cloyds Mountain by Howard Rollins McManus.)

    Wish I could remember what the other was, I came across it within the past few months, but I'm not sure which battle and would have to dig through dozens of books to locate it again. What struck me was how similar it was to the New River Bridge incident.
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