Quote Originally Posted by player1
Actually it's 5/4 (attack/charge) now, since with 1.3, not even Spartans have secondary weapon of same force as spears (they have 16/4 spears and 12/3 swords).

So I think I reverese engieneer what I would call "correct" value.
(all secondary phalanx weapons got nerfed with 1.3 unit balance tweaks)
Well I think the removal of secondary weapon for German spear warband is correct since that's how Gaul spear warband are set up, and the mistake was giving them phalanx formation. It's a mistake that goes all the way back to RTW v1.0.