Sadly, once again my best layed plans came to naught. My young hier matured and his elderly father hung on for a year more then died! I put it down to starting to build cathedrals in Wessex and Constantinopole!! So I now have a massive Empire, a young king and a healthy treasury (for the first time in the game and it is 1250!) So I am wondering what to do next. The Pope owns all of Italy and out to Burgandy and Hungary still exisits with about half a dozen provinces. My inclination is to put together a single stack army with my 8 star general and see if they can take out Hungary by them selves. This is my last vanilla MTW campaign as I have VI waiting to be installed, so I have mixed feelings - on one hand this has been a great campaign, only a certainty in recent years, on the other I want to try all the new toys in VI.