Computers bad for teaching?

[Tribesman]

I heard this same arguement concering analytic skills about 25 years ago concerning the use of calculators in the classroom for math.

There might be something in that , I have noticed that the vast majority of my recent apprentices cannot even do very basic calculations without a calculator , also the majority of the younger engineers and QS I have to deal with .
I mean seriously a QS is involved in only one thing , calculations , and they cannot even multiply , sometimes even with the use of a calculator working in base 10 !!!!!!

[Redleg]

I heard this same arguement concering analytic skills about 25 years ago concerning the use of calculators in the classroom for math.

There might be something in that , I have noticed that the vast majority of my recent apprentices cannot even do very basic calculations without a calculator , also the majority of the younger engineers and QS I have to deal with .
I mean seriously a QS is involved in only one thing , calculations , and they cannot even multiply , sometimes even with the use of a calculator working in base 10 !!!!!!

How terrible is that.

Have you noticed that when you go to the store the clerk can not give you change without consulting the cash register calculation for the amount.

[Tribesman]

How terrible is that.
Considering a QS takes either a 3 or 7 year course at college/univesity dealing almost exclusively with calculations after 12 or 13 years of ordinary education it is atrocious .
Seriously , I recieved practically no formal education from the age of 13 yet end up having to correct these "educated" peoples mistakes .