Discussion: The new Save/Reload issue

**Jambo** · 10-12-2005, 22:56

Hi,

Some of us are now aware of the slightly bugged naval invasion AI in 1.3 (and most likely BI), which curbs early expansion of the AI Brutii and Scipii.

Well, recently I've been playing a late game BI campaign as the Alemanni (VH/H) in which I currently have an Ostrogoth horde on my doorstep in Gaul. Over the last 10 turns or so they have essentially been moving back and forward doing very little when I was expecting them to start wreaking havoc amongst my poorly defended neighbouring cities. At this point it crossed my mind as to whether the horde AI could be affected by a similar issue. I tried saving and reloading each turn, which seems to sort the AI Brutii and Scipii in 1.3, and this seemed to spark the Horde into action....

It's early days yet to make an assumption, but I just wondered whether any others may have had similar experiences with rather stagnant hordes in the mid-late game of a BI campaign?

Regards

J

**antisocialmunky** · 10-12-2005, 23:19

It's almost like some spiteful CA programmer is mocking us for being mean about the old save/reload bug.:-p

**Afro Thunder** · 10-13-2005, 00:19

Wait, from what I gathered it's actually a good thing now to save and reload often?

**SpencerH** · 10-13-2005, 00:50

If reloading seems to fix the problem, it may be related to the presumptive memory leak.

**Red Harvest** · 10-17-2005, 07:03

Originally Posted by SpencerH

If reloading seems to fix the problem, it may be related to the presumptive memory leak.

Yes, there is some sort of memory leak. I'm not sure what is going on but things keep slowing down as the game progresses.

**Mouzafphaerre** · 10-17-2005, 07:45

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After four or five hours of gameplay battles become unplayable for me. The memory leak is enermous. I posted a SS in the bugs thread.
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**Trithemius** · 11-04-2005, 01:02

Originally Posted by Red Harvest

Yes, there is some sort of memory leak. I'm not sure what is going on but things keep slowing down as the game progresses.

It seems to totally devour the memory. I find if I do not restart periodically things become ridiculously slow. Even exiting the game doesn't seem to help because the 'process' still shows up as running, and still shows as "leaking" to boot.

**PseRamesses** · 10-13-2005, 13:10

Originally Posted by Jambo

Hi,
Some of us are now aware of the slightly bugged naval invasion AI in 1.3 (and most likely BI), which curbs early expansion of the AI Brutii and Scipii.
Well, recently I've been playing a late game BI campaign as the Alemanni (VH/H) in which I currently have an Ostrogoth horde on my doorstep in Gaul. Over the last 10 turns or so they have essentially been moving back and forward doing very little when I was expecting them to start wreaking havoc amongst my poorly defended neighbouring cities. At this point it crossed my mind as to whether the horde AI could be affected by a similar issue. I tried saving and reloading each turn, which seems to sort the AI Brutii and Scipii in 1.3, and this seemed to spark the Horde into action....
It's early days yet to make an assumption, but I just wondered whether any others may have had similar experiences with rather stagnant hordes in the mid-late game of a BI campaign?
Regards
J

Yup, I found out that too. If a faction/ horde seems to bee "stuck" between two goals and constantly is re-evaluating it´s objectives they can be "sparked" into action by reloading. Due to the memory problem with BI I found out this by chance playing ERE and faced with 3 hordes at my norther border who couldn´t deside between the east bridge or the west bridge and between attacking me or move into the WRE/ Balkan regions.

**Mordred** · 10-13-2005, 19:43

Yes faced similar behavior with Vandal and Ostrogoth Horde.
thought it had to do witht the fact their forces were split up on each side of Danube. Now that i read your post I shall pay more attention to it.

**A.Saturnus** · 10-13-2005, 21:52

Both the Vandals and the Slavs were for some time in my territory moving undecidedly around. I guess from now on, I´ll be saving and loading every turn.

**Jambo** · 10-13-2005, 21:56

Let us know how you all get along and whether it makes any difference or not.

**Make_me_your_** · 10-14-2005, 03:51

I also noticed that the Hun horde in my M/M ERE campaign behaved in a similar fashion. It was during the beginning of the my campaign when I noticed that the Hun Horde were pacing east and west in the Northern plains of Thracia Province for at least 20 turns(Constantinople.) Eager to remove this threat to my beloved capital (cheesy way if you must,) I sent my assasin in a failed attempt to remove the three-star faction heir/general. To my surprise and horror, in the next turn they quit their pacing, moved south and sieged my capital the turn after that.

I know that the above circumstances may not be exactly the same as what you described, but I thought I'd shared and hoped to contribute to the dicussion.