The Conservative Crack Up

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 10-18-2005, 21:12

Originally Posted by Redleg

The Mexican-American War was fought and New Mexico, Arizona, California parts of Nevada, Utah, Colorado were ceded to the United States by Mexico as a result of the Peace Treaty. I also believe the United States might of made a cash payment to Mexico.

We did. A further purchase was made years later to facilitate a railroad (The Gadsen Purchase; last segment of land acquired to form the continental 48).

As to returning land to the "original" owners, it called to mind a little ditty I enjoy:

Give Ireland back to the Irish/
Give Lappland back to the Lapps/
Give China back to the Chinese/
...and Yoko back to the Japs/

(Note: Sons and daughters of Nippon, I would not seriously advocate anything so heinous.)

**Red Harvest** · 10-18-2005, 22:39

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

No im here to illustrate that you are indded the king of hypocrisy. Your constanly calling me and other conservatives haters all the while spewing your own brand of hate for us. I let your own words speak for you.

And then of course theres your unbrideled hatred for Bush.

I don't hate the man, I hate his incompetence and his policies. You see, unlike certain conservatives, I'm less concerned about judging the man's morals, and more about his performance and the sort of tone he sets for the nation. His private life doesn't interest me. I oppose him and distrust him, it's not the same as hating him.

However, there is a recurring undercurrent in certain conservative's postings of bigotry bordering on racism. Nothing new, it was just as common in the workplace. When someone goes through a tirade of dividing us into ethnic groups throughout the U.S. (and immigrants) and then makes a moral judgement of the class of each as a whole, it deserves condemnation. I find the conservative brand of it just as annoying as when Farraquan or Sharpton or folks like that are behind it from the other side.

**Devastatin Dave** · 10-18-2005, 22:49

Originally Posted by Red Harvest

I don't hate the man, I hate his incompetence and his policies. You see, unlike certain conservatives, I'm less concerned about judging the man's morals, and more about his performance and the sort of tone he sets for the nation. His private life doesn't interest me. I oppose him and distrust him, it's not the same as hating him.

However, there is a recurring undercurrent in certain conservative's postings of bigotry bordering on racism. Nothing new, it was just as common in the workplace. When someone goes through a tirade of dividing us into ethnic groups throughout the U.S. (and immigrants) and then makes a moral judgement of the class of each as a whole, it deserves condemnation. I find the conservative brand of it just as annoying as when Farraquan or Sharpton or folks like that are behind it from the other side.

Yippee, another "conservatives are racists" post by Red Harvest. Please, **edited**. Your complete and utter ignorance is boring.

**Devastatin Dave** · 10-18-2005, 22:51

Hold on my half bred son has something to say to you...

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He's 2 and a half so let me translate he said, "Race baiters are losers that can't win arguements or elections so all they can do is call anyone that disagrees with them stupid or racist.

Thanks son...

**Strike For The South** · 10-18-2005, 23:03

Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

STFS:

Perhaps a solution involving less bloodshed? While preventing illegal immigration and deporting current illegals would be worthwhile (and a nice change from the actions of the previous 15 administrations), I have a few -- I think understandable -- qualms with gunning down mostly unarmed individuals who are trying to make a better life for themselves and their families. Stopping them yes, killing them no.

I tried the wall no one listend. Im not going to allow crap spew into my country

**Red Harvest** · 10-18-2005, 23:16

Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

Hold on my half bred son has something to say to you...

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He's 2 and a half so let me translate he said, "Race baiters are losers that can't win arguements or elections so all they can do is call anyone that disagrees with them stupid or racist.

Thanks son...

Of course, the race baiting charge falls flat, because it is certain conservative posters who seem so certain when they inject race into everything, like it is something we all understand and agree with. I'm left shaking my head.

Considering that the big change for the GOP was in embracing the Southern Strategy catering to racist elements opposing the civil rights movement, I'm on pretty firm ground.

**Alexanderofmacedon** · 10-18-2005, 23:21

You know their are bad things about immigrants. Especially ilegal immigrants.

BUT, they do so many jobs Americans would never want to do. They do them for low wages, and they are an essential part of the United States economy. I think we need to do a better job limiting the number of them coming in, but it's not too big of a problem.

**Devastatin Dave** · 10-18-2005, 23:42

Originally Posted by Red Harvest

Of course, the race baiting charge falls flat, because it is certain conservative posters who seem so certain when they inject race into everything, like it is something we all understand and agree with. I'm left shaking my head.

Considering that the big change for the GOP was in embracing the Southern Strategy catering to racist elements opposing the civil rights movement, I'm on pretty firm ground.

Same crap spewing from your lieing hole. The only person that has an issue with race is you. GOP embracing the southern element? It was the GOP that signed the majority of the civil rights laws in the 60's, Jesse Jackson.

**Devastatin Dave** · 10-19-2005, 00:05

What's next Red, ur I mean, Jesse, the dikes in New Orleans was blown up by white Republicans, right? Let's hear some more of your brilliant insight into the mond of the conservative. This should be as intelligent as your usual rant.

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 10-19-2005, 01:06

This is a funny thread, continue!

**Reverend Joe** · 10-19-2005, 02:17

Aaaah, idiots and lunatics... it would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad, how they waste their minds this way, ranting and bickering over things that will never matter. Hell... it doesn't matter. I'll be out, living my life, if you need me.

**Red Harvest** · 10-19-2005, 02:49

The hit dogs sure are yelpin'!

DD, you are providing the perfect example of the conservative supremacist mentality that some possess. Keep it up, you are doing far more to demonstrate my point than what I could politely say in a forum.

No, not all conservatives think like this, but it is too common. It is exactly what I was talking about on the "quiet racism" theme in other threads. (In this case it is not so quiet.

) And frankly, it embarrasses me as an American. It is one thing to have a given religious or economic bent, but the racial overtones are a big driver in the divisiveness of the current conservative movement. The GOP has taken the low road in this regard.

Jesse Jackson used to drive me up the wall, but he has mellowed some over the years. I can tolerate listening to him now, although I frequently don't agree with what he says. (My view of Jackson first mellowed a little back when he read "Green Eggs and Ham" on Saturday Night Live. For the first time he didn't seem to be taking himself so seriously. Similarly, my view of Dole improved when he went on SNL.)