no more patches?

**Kraxis** · 10-13-2005, 22:13

Originally Posted by Simon Appleton

Have a look at the sticky on the release of the patch. Captain Fishpants says they are reviewing the issue of whether there will be another patch. They want to see how many bugs are found by players.

Which means... BRING 'EM ON!!!!
But so far I think the list has two important bugs, the rest is less important. But that doesn't mean those two don't need fixing, they need it bad!

Oh, btw Captain Fishpants = MikeB.

**Sin Qua Non** · 10-13-2005, 22:29

I wouldn't be overly worried. From experience I think it's safe to say there will be at least (if only) one patch for BI. This topic always seems to sprout up right after a new release, with many people fearing that some evil no-patch policy will leave the release tainted. Although there probably won't be as many patches as most people will want, I'm sure 1.1 will happen, especially with the bug list already growing. It's franchise suicide to not patch, and nearly as bad to hold a patch for months on end. That may be more likely, and hopefully it won't happen.

BTW a patch limit can also be a good thing (even if it's unintentionally good). Raven Shield is a game that was patched all the way up to 1.6 mostly for multiplayer stuff, and it was a pain to install all those patches before Ubi finally got a comprehensive patch. Even worse since Athena Sword didn't use the same version numbers, making it all the more frustrating. There are other examples, but that one readily comes to mind.

**ShellShock** · 10-13-2005, 23:01

CA has been caught out before by not identifying important bugs in time for a patch and they are obviously concerned that the same thing does not happen again. There was the secondary fire bug, which was spotted by the community in time to get into 1.2 (by the skin of its teeth); unfortunately the same could not be said for the load/save bug.

It is passing sad that the load/save bug was not truly recognised until after the 1.2 patch had been released. Knowledge of this bug took the enjoyment out of the game for me, which is strange as I had been playing quite happily (as I suspect like most other people) until I found out about it - ignorance is bliss. It is one thing to think you are doing well in your campaign because you are a direct descendant of Julius Caesar, quite another thing when you realise the AI is being cut off at the knees every time you reload.

The saddest aspect is that this cruel twist of fate resulted in a rift between some members of the community and CA. BI has restored my faith again.

**Veresov** · 10-14-2005, 17:21

I have been disillusioned by CA's patch support since the uproar over the load/save bug. On the COM forums and on this site many people were censored for complaining about the bug and subsequently organizing a boycott. Only TWCenter had the courage to stand up to CA. This boycott is why 1.3 patch was issued as far as I believe.

CA has done some good damage control and regained some integrity at least in my eyes for doing the 1.3 patch. I hope they don't ruin it by closing their eyes and ears to the community again.

**Sol Invictus** · 10-14-2005, 18:43

I think CA is just very cautious about promising anything. I am very confident that there will be at least one patch to BI and maybe two. If the first patch doesn't create new problems and it is substantial, this should be eneough. If there was a complete refusal to even create one patch; CA is doomed.

**Grey_Fox** · 10-14-2005, 21:30

Originally Posted by Veresov

I have been disillusioned by CA's patch support since the uproar over the load/save bug. On the COM forums and on this site many people were censored for complaining about the bug and subsequently organizing a boycott. Only TWCenter had the courage to stand up to CA. This boycott is why 1.3 patch was issued as far as I believe.

CA has done some good damage control and regained some integrity at least in my eyes for doing the 1.3 patch. I hope they don't ruin it by closing their eyes and ears to the community again.

This is a joke right?

You do know that Activision had a one-patch policy, in that RTW would get one patch and one patch only (1.1 does not count since it was a hotfix to allow multiplayer to work), don't you? And that since SEGA bought CA, this one-patch policy is no longer in effect as it seems not to be SEGA's policy, follow me so far?

Now, if by 'courage' and 'complaining about the bugs' you mean sending trolls over to the .com creating numerous accounts and using these to spam and flame CA's forums, and then running back to the TWC once they were banned and crying "FASCISTS!" and how they were 'martyrs to the cause', then I suppose you could be right. However in my eyes that is the action of a rather immature bunch of spoilt brats.

Quite frankly the 'boycott' probably had no effect on how CA runs it's business. Far more likely SEGA does not want to gain the same reputation as Activision or EA in terms of patch and customer support (i.e. they actually want to have customer support). This is done by looking after it's new Total War franchise of which RTW is the latest version.

**Kraxis** · 10-14-2005, 22:00

Originally Posted by Grey_Fox

Far more likely SEGA does not want to gain the same reputation as Activision or EA in terms of patch and customer support (i.e. they actually want to have customer support). This is done by looking after it's new Total War franchise of which RTW is the latest version.

Indeed... SEGA is comparably smaller than either of the two others. They can't afford to alienate themselves. They need the loyal fanbase, at least for now.

And yes that ramble at the com was ugly. But on both sides. I resigned my moderator position because of that. I simply had a hard time doing a job I didn't feel much for. At the same time I felt it was unfair to the others as it left them to deal with the alien invaders spamming and causing mayhem.
We recognized them, and it boiled down to around 10 people in all... TEN people, no more. The rest were being nice.

Wow... huh? Do you think CA would ever change their ways because of 10 people? And those 10 people ruined it for the rest to complain in a rational manner. Wohoo! Great job!