Wonders' effects in BI?

**Dromikaites** · 12-11-2005, 14:00

Originally Posted by alpaca

This is not religion in RTW but RTW in BI (with religion of course), a small but important difference.
Alas I think Drom (and the Imperium team) will be rather occupied with Imperium during the next weeks so I don't believe we will have time to put too much research effort into this, unless we need it for the mod.

Yes, like Alpaca said, what we did was to play RTW using the BI engine, not RTW with the RTW engine. This is why the religion showed up. The "cure" to prevent religion from showing up when you play RTW using BI.exe (full name RomeTotalWar-BI.exe) is to delete the descr_beliefs.txt (of course without mentioning any religion in the descr_regions.txt either).

And of course, we will share what we discover, except we won't research more than what's necessary for the mod be released. Once it's out of the door we'll continue the research for enhancing the future versions.

**Makanyane** · 08-12-2007, 16:46

and the winner of who can relaunch most old threads this week goes to..... me

Hadn't realised before that old wonder effects don't work in BI, which is irritating having just spent ages trying to figure out how to negate things that don't actually exist

Have just noticed something rather strange though, none of the other wonders give a wonder happiness bonus when you hold them in BI, but if you re-introduce the 'statue' wonder eg: the Statue of Zeus at Olympia, that one does give a 10% 'wonder' bonus to all settlements of the occupying faction.

The statue wasn't actually one of the ones included in vanilla BI!

Anyone got any ideas why that works and others don't? Or any update on whether fiddling with anything in strat or the other files re-activates effects in BI?

**Jubal_Barca** · 08-12-2007, 18:03

just one cmment about religion in RTW, I'm usning Chiv; TW with RTW 1.5 and religion seems to be working, or at least showing up. Is this normal?

**Makanyane** · 08-12-2007, 18:09

It was always meant to be feasible to put religion into RTW, someone who tried it early on reported problems with it, but if Chiv released with it (and I'm sure they are designed to run under both RTW and BI engines) then I guess it confirms it works

**Dol Guldur** · 08-12-2007, 20:51

wonder effects show up as the golden icons in the settlement details (happiness/public order) - I am sure they exist in there in FATW which must derive from the vanilla effects. As to other effects, and the culture-specific ones, then I think they are broken.

EDIT: And I think I wrote that guide on negating wonder effects for rtw (before BI came out?) so don't beat me up ;)

**Makanyane** · 08-12-2007, 22:33

wonder effects show up as the golden icons in the settlement details (happiness/public order)

yes but only from the one with internal name 'statue'. That was the bit I only just noticed and it certainly seems same on FATW (I'm reasonably sure I didn't do anything to break version of that!)

Checked on FE, re-united kingdom only get the wonder icon because of the 'statue' being used at Lathron. If you make that city revolt I think you'll find you don't get little golden icons from the other two wonders they are still holding